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I've been recording this in the New Member's forum but I guess it really belongs here. Those interested in previous posts can look for Needed a "project" in the new member's forum. http://www.classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6199

Not such a good night. Compression testing.
#1 - 75
#2 - 129
#3 - 129
#4 - 136
checked #1 valve lash - perfect. Added about a teaspoon of oil to the plug hole and cranked it a few turns, it goes up to 100. PB Blaster and set a few minutes - down to 90. Oil again and up to 110. Oil in the others and they go to 160-170. Check #1 again, 120. Left oil in #1 to set overnight. I really don't want to go into this engine (don't really have the tools or space for it). I'll look into making a pressure rig out of a plug on my lathe as I don't have welding gear.

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Just get her running and keep your fingers crossed that the rings start to reseat. :moped: :beg:

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+1. After running for a while, she'll probably even out.

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Rings tend to stick when the motors sit for a long time. They usually free up and reseat after a little run time.

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My biggest worry is that #1 cylinder had an exhaust valve open when the belt area was under water. If his were true,and there is rust pitting in the bottom of the cylinder, it could be bad news.

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What I did with PB blaster was to add to the spray straw about 8-10 inches of electric wire sheathing, when I stripped the sheathing off the wire it curled then I used a small piece of tubing to couple that to the straw.
When I slipped the curled tubing end into the plug hole I was able to use one hand to turn the straw while the other sprayed the nozzle.
What this did was put the curled end in direct contact with the top of the piston, cylinder walls and generally all over the inside of the combustion chamber. I did this before I ever turned the motor just in case.
Just make it long enough or secure enough it doesn't disappear into the cylinder.

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News to report, but not much good. First, I took the snap ring off the U-joint in preparation for pulling the motor. Came off without inventing any new vocabulary. But.... see anything wrong here?
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Then, I got the bright idea to use my USB camera to look in the cylinders. What you see below is arranged as
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So, I don't know if it is worth going any further with this block. Doubt this will hone out, and it sure won't run out (will it?). Hard to tell how deep the rust goes. Should I just mount the tank, carbs, and enough electrics to try to start it before dumping it?

Guess the next thing is to look for another engine. I don't want to spend over a couple hundred, though - so I will have to be VERY patient. I'd like to stick with a '75 - '77 after all the work I put in the carbs.
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Hard to tell in those pictures but they don't look that bad.
Lots of guys have cleaned the rust and run with it, looked pretty bad too.

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hmmm it looks bad but it always mor crap up above cylinders than below ...if you want to keep cost down like you said id pull the heads and just clean ...no stoning that would destroy it ...I use all kinds of stuff blades knifes scrubies ...and the most important part touch ...kinda like ice skating with a bull dozer and I bet bet it will be good

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If it were me, I would pull the heads and clean up the cylinders. Not hard to do and you will get a much better idea of the condition of the cylinders before investing in a new engine.

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I'd roll the dice and try to use that motor. Hand cleaning the cylinders can go a long way to making it useful for a long time to come. I'd probably use the cheapest head gaskets I could find with coppercoat gasket sealer. At least until you know the motor will be acceptable for long term use.

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