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This is what I read:

I have a 1982 GL 1100 Project for sale. It's all there and in excellent condition, but needs put back together. Will accept offers, but only from someone that wants to come and look at it. No scammers, etc.etc. I am interested in just getting it out of my garage, so I will entertain reasonable offers.


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Have not heard the engine yet.
The PO had read in the manual to remove the engine to replace the starter.
He discovered after he took a lot of things off, that the engine did not have to be removed.
He put the starter on and started the engine. Immediately it sounded like a ball bouncing around inside the engine. He shut it down and sold the bike to me.

I took the back end off and turned the engine by hand. It became stuck at one point. I reversed the turn and it sounded like a ball bouncing around inside the engine--like a pinball sound.
Kept turning the engine and it became stuck again.

Any suggestions on what may have come apart? To have a sound like a ball dropping down inside the engine.

Should I first take the rockers off, take the left head off, any suggestions?
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I’d check the valve timing first. Could be a valve hitting if not timed right.
Turning the engine in reverse....who knows what sounds could emminate by doing that.

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Nothing wrong with reading "for sale" ads and making choices. The trick is to make the "right" choices for yourself. Sorry this one didn't work out.

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This one should work out. The seller was upfront about the sound out of the engine. 56,000 miles on the clock.
The paint is in very fine shape. There is no rusting or pitting on anything.
The mufflers look brand new.

I turned the engine by hand. I do plan to time it from scratch. But what ever is loose in there sounds like a nut falling down when I turn the engine a little.
I feel the starter has nothing to do with this. As I do not think anything from the starter could get in the engine. Am I correct on this thinking?

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I got no comment on what it could be... but am curious what you paid for it? If I could be that nosey :)

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Check the rotor bolt. PO may have tried to turn it backwards and loosened it.

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Check the rotor bolt. PO may have tried to turn it backwards and loosened it.

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I picked this cute puppy up for $400.00.
The nut is still on the back of the engine so I do not think it is that nut.

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The way I read the original post, you can turn the engine one way, and hear something fall, and the engine stops turning. Turn it back the other way, and same thing.....no?

If you have all the sparkle plugs out, look down into each cylinder as you turn the engine....make SURE all 4 pistons are moving. If one piston does not move, you've found the problem....a rod has broken loose from a piston.. This would explain not being able to turn the engine a full revolution, AND the noise...the noise being the rod flopping in the cylinder. :rant:

Unless you know the guy you got it from(and I take it you dint), can you really trust what he told you about the engine running before ? :ahem:

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Hmmmm....as always best to just take the heads off and see for sure what’s up ...

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Heads --I have been 2 hours trying to figure out how the left head comes off.

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Heads --I have been 2 hours trying to figure out how the left head comes off.

All the bolts out including the little one bottom center and a little persuasion with a dead blow mallet.
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Thank you for the bottom bolt. It was still in place.
Now it is out but I have no dead blow hammer.
Haven't found the right persuasion tool yet.

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Start a couple of the head bolts in a few threads to hold the head once it breaks loose.
Try smacking a hammer on a 2x4 toward outward in different places around the head.

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Start a couple of the head bolts in a few threads to hold the head once it breaks loose.
Try smacking a hammer on a 2x4 toward outward in different places around the head.

Yep! :builder: Thumpy thumpy!

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