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Xavier - these new style RR with only a negative and positive connection to the electrical system is confounding me, but I'm always open to learning something new.

Two things. My friends Triumph Rocket has the series RR with the new technology and the electrical system setup is that power comes out of the RR and splits - goes to the battery through a 30 amp fuse and 12 gauge wire and goes to the fuse block through another set of in line fuses. There is no connection to the electrical system in the wiring harness like we have on the GW. His RR connection was the same as the SH847 so we tried it in his bike and it was plug and play, system voltage was solid at 14.0 VDC.

Another fellow I correspond with just installed the SH847 series RR I sent him on his '85 LTD. He also has the Compufire 55403 series RR on his other bike since 2012 and it is working well. He tried both the SH847 and the Compufire on the '85 LTD by connecting these in the wiring harness as per the older OEM RR but this did not work. The RR would not output the required voltage. He connected theses units to the battery and the battery terminal of the starter solenoid and both worked. He has since installed the SH847 permanently connected to the battery terminal of the starter solenoid and it is working well maintaining 14.0 VDC +/- 1 volt at all RPMs.

Don't understand exactly why it will not work when connected into the electrical system as per the original design.

With these in mind, would recommend connecting your RR to the battery terminal of the starter solenoid and let us know how it works. You will have to cap off the red/white wires as these will be live at all times because of how theses are connected into the system.

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Thinking about your install again. There is no reason the RR should not work connected into the system as per the OEM RR install. Since it is not working as you would expect, I'm curious as to whether the dual red/white wires that you have connected to are causing an issue with the RR sensing a good voltage signal. You may want to try disconnecting one of these wires and see what the RR does regarding voltage. Won't hurt to try before you change the connection closer to the battery.

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hi Ernest,
i will try disconnecting one red/white wire at the time and see what the multimeter tells. this is a new try for me. i will inform you.
connecting the RR directly to the starter solenoid and to earth was the second try i've done and this didn't work. first i had it directly to the battery as recomended by the vendor.
when i get the RR you are sending me, i will see if this changes anything what i really hope.
what do you think about trying to connect the sense wire to the red/white wires? could this go and sense as it should or make a new issue?
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hi Oldwing fans
this was an interesting try taking a red/white wire at the connector off. it doesn't matter the red/white wire i disconnected, it doesn't charge anymore. i also tried connecting the black wire to one of the red/white wires to see if it senses this way. no way! no charge at all and the ignition stays live. this means no need to turn the key on to start the bike. don't do it :-)
while testing, the red/white wires at the connector and the 3 yellow wires at the connector on the left side of the battery were really hot.
a new thought: with half the wires, charging gets lost. charging needs good wires. could it be that the oem wires are not enough in combination with this RR and consumers on?
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Hi Ernest
You saved me! Really, you saved me. I got your parcel with the RR and connected it to test it. all consumers on at idle 12.9v, at 1100 rpm 13.3, from 1200rpm on and above 14.4v on the voltmeter. Without consumers 0.1 to 0.2v more. finally a RR that works. It was a long way to the success. Tomorrow, I will connect the wires as the should be and ride the oldwing to see if also riding is ok.
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You're welcome. Enjoy. Cheers

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Hi Oldwing-fans

did the test ride today.

with all consumers (without any 0.1-0.2v more)
idle 12.9v
1000rpm 13.3v
above 1200 rpm 14.4v
once and just for 2 seconds at 3000rpm 15.5v.

i think i won this battle :-) thank you for helping.

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