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[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140356#p140356:3npki9s4 said:
AApple » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:24 pm[/url]":3npki9s4]
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=139316#p139316:3npki9s4 said:
C5Performance » Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:16 pm[/url]":3npki9s4]
Drilling/tapping the cam is the most affordable option. I'm going to make a jig that sits in the end of the head so I can drill the hole without cam removal. I'll let you know if it works out.
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I was really disappointed in this deal(no more factory location conversions on the 1100) until I saw this... :clapping: If you can devise a jig so we(I) don't have to remove the cam, and re-time the belts and all, that would be the only way some of us would be able to do this upgrade. I totally understand the reasoning behind the idea...no pulling the engine to do the conversion and such, heat aspects, etc. For me, changing the cam(s) would be a deal breaker. Being able to "modify" the cam without removing it(and the associated hardware) would be SWEEEEEET! :good:
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I can provide dimensions if you want to manufacture the old 1100 kit but I've previously stated why it has little to no advantage and plenty of disadvantages.
To drill/tap into the 1200 cam (which has a pilot hole already from Honda) I would personally make a jig to hold the drill bit, and use a depth stop. If you destroy the cam that's on you :)

It does not take much time to pull the cam, and for many people, is a great time to change that timing belt they've always "wanted" to do. Maybe we'll find someone willing to make a video of a cam swap?

As for endorsement of our product by this forum, don't think it came easily. Dan, Joe, and several others have challenged me extensively during the past two years via phone, email, PM, and personally at Joe's Meet & Greet.
First Joe slaps the thing on a radically modified bike and asks me to set timing crazy high. Dan designed the first 1200 kit for testing with virtually NO input from me "Hey Paul...guess what I did?"
Now Slabghost is installing our Gen 3 & Gen 4 on two different bikes...I am sure he will give it a proper flogging as well.

I appreciate the support and feel I owe it back to the forum to continue pushing forward with more Goldwing products.

As for Joe's suggestion on cam drilling, who runs the throttle and who holds the drill bit? :popcorn:
 
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140359#p140359:26atk6wu said:
brianinpa » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:02 pm[/url]":26atk6wu]
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140353#p140353:26atk6wu said:
C5Performance » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:50 am[/url]":26atk6wu]
We never offered a kit for the 1200 (Dan made his own) but the GL1100 spacers will no longer be available. All Wing ignitions will be mounted on the rear of the left cylinder with two screws.
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Paul,

The 1100 kit I have on my 1100 would have worked on my 1200 also as the 84 motor is unique so I was going to use an 1100 kit for my 1200. Looks like that won’t be necessary any more. So I no longer need to pull the engine to change the ignition. Now, could you figure out a stock stator that doesn’t require the motor to be removed also????? :shock:

:smilie_happy:
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I understand the CX500-650 engines are just as bad.
 
:BigGrin: well i dont think it would take anything more than idle to drill the hole :builder: to drill a hole crocked in a spinning strait piece is impossible without divine intervention :music3: :mrgreen:
 
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140357#p140357:2cl9vkmm said:
joedrum » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:46 pm[/url]":2cl9vkmm]
well joel ..i cant think of a easier drill on the motor ...crank it up and hold the bit still ...it is already centered punched :smilie_happy: :smilie_happy: it wont take long ... and if you cant drill a strait hole like this ... :fiddle:
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I think the cam is turning the wrong direction for that Joe, Dang It! :0fftopic:
 
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140360#p140360:1gtq8icf said:
C5Performance » Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:13 pm[/url]":1gtq8icf]
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140356#p140356:1gtq8icf said:
AApple » Tue Feb 03, 2015 1:24 pm[/url]":1gtq8icf]
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=139316#p139316:1gtq8icf said:
C5Performance » Sat Jan 17, 2015 1:16 pm[/url]":1gtq8icf]
Drilling/tapping the cam is the most affordable option. I'm going to make a jig that sits in the end of the head so I can drill the hole without cam removal. I'll let you know if it works out.
Click to expand...

I was really disappointed in this deal(no more factory location conversions on the 1100) until I saw this... :clapping: If you can devise a jig so we(I) don't have to remove the cam, and re-time the belts and all, that would be the only way some of us would be able to do this upgrade. I totally understand the reasoning behind the idea...no pulling the engine to do the conversion and such, heat aspects, etc. For me, changing the cam(s) would be a deal breaker. Being able to "modify" the cam without removing it(and the associated hardware) would be SWEEEEEET! :good:
Click to expand...

I can provide dimensions if you want to manufacture the old 1100 kit but I've previously stated why it has little to no advantage and plenty of disadvantages.
To drill/tap into the 1200 cam (which has a pilot hole already from Honda) I would personally make a jig to hold the drill bit, and use a depth stop. If you destroy the cam that's on you :)

It does not take much time to pull the cam, and for many people, is a great time to change that timing belt they've always "wanted" to do. Maybe we'll find someone willing to make a video of a cam swap?

As for endorsement of our product by this forum, don't think it came easily. Dan, Joe, and several others have challenged me extensively during the past two years via phone, email, PM, and personally at Joe's Meet & Greet.
First Joe slaps the thing on a radically modified bike and asks me to set timing crazy high. Dan designed the first 1200 kit for testing with virtually NO input from me "Hey Paul...guess what I did?"
Now Slabghost is installing our Gen 3 & Gen 4 on two different bikes...I am sure he will give it a proper flogging as well.

I appreciate the support and feel I owe it back to the forum to continue pushing forward with more Goldwing products.

As for Joe's suggestion on cam drilling, who runs the throttle and who holds the drill bit? :popcorn:
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Idle or throttle lock a little above. Try a big half inch drill as a bit holder. That way if it binds at all it just turns the drill motor. Should be a one man job that way. :good:
 
i see no reason not to ... and no reason not to put the 77 cams in ...verooooom time ... the angry dresser 1100 was quite the performer with the early cams and carbs on it ....no valves hitting the piston problems on 1100s with early cams
 
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140366#p140366:2wo3vm16 said:
joedrum » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:18 pm[/url]":2wo3vm16]
i see no reason not to ... and no reason not to put the 77 cams in ...verooooom time ... the angry dresser 1100 was quite the performer with the early cams and carbs on it ....no valves hitting the piston problems on 1100s with early cams
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That's still in the back of my mind...
 
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140370#p140370:3dqlbf3p said:
mcgovern61 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:56 pm[/url]":3dqlbf3p]
I think the cam is turning the wrong direction for that Joe, Dang It!
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Can't you just turn the bit around so it is facing the right way? :smilie_happy: :smilie_happy:
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They do make drills that turn the other way. They are quite handy for drilling out broken bolts and screws. :good:
 
The rear of the cam turns counter-clockwise, viewed from the rear, so it is rotating in the correct direction to be drilled. The cam turns at 500-600 RPM at idle, which should be fine for drilling. You would need to be certain the bit is kept exactly parallel to the cam for a perfect hole.
 
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140390#p140390:1ctjza2o said:
dan filipi » Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:19 pm[/url]":1ctjza2o]
:0fftopic:

Coming soon.....A member sidebar profile badge for all those with a C5 ignition!
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:good: Alrighty then! :beer: :clapping:
 
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140415#p140415:zbdv8t0n said:
C5Performance » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:43 am[/url]":zbdv8t0n]
I have a C5 on at least 7 of my bikes (GL1000, CB350, CB750, Buell Blast, GS250, GS550, and Ural).

Do I get a special one?
My teachers always said I was "special" :cheeky:
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How "special" were you? Did you get to wear hockey gear and ride the short bus? I was told by my scoutmaster I was a most outstanding scout! Out standing in the rain that is. :whistling:
Now getting back to subject. Uhh what is? OH Yeah! The whatchacallit ignition the uh ... Oh yeah C5 I want to add another of the newest ones to my order. Soon as I can get to the bank to deposit my pay. :thanks:
 
[url=https://www.classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140421#p140421:19oxb1xu said:
slabghost » Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:48 am[/url]":19oxb1xu]
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140415#p140415:19oxb1xu said:
C5Performance » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:43 am[/url]":19oxb1xu]
I have a C5 on at least 7 of my bikes (GL1000, CB350, CB750, Buell Blast, GS250, GS550, and Ural).

Do I get a special one?
My teachers always said I was "special" :cheeky:
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How "special" were you? Did you get to wear hockey gear and ride the short bus? I was told by my scoutmaster I was a most outstanding scout! Out standing in the rain that is. :whistling:
Now getting back to subject. Uhh what is? OH Yeah! The whatchacallit ignition the uh ... Oh yeah C5 I want to add another of the newest ones to my order. Soon as I can get to the bank to deposit my pay. :thanks:
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They didn't have short buses when I was a kid...they used vans painted fire engine red. How's that for making the poor kids feel special?

Despite support from only one forum (this one of course) and a few Facebook pages, we are beginning to see interest in this new universal kit. I discovered our most recent customer ordered the new kit because of the positive discussions from people like Skiri, Wes, and Brian who have stock bikes and still found improvements with the C5 installed. Thank you everyone for the straight talk about the good and bad during installation and road trips afterward. People read what you say!

Now back to the shop for me. Have a great day everyone!
 
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140428#p140428:2vjnup4e said:
C5Performance » Wed Feb 04, 2015 10:34 am[/url]":2vjnup4e]
Despite support from only one forum (this one of course) and a few Facebook pages, we are beginning to see interest in this new universal kit. I discovered our most recent customer ordered the new kit because of the positive discussions from people like Skiri, Wes, and Brian who have stock bikes and still found improvements with the C5 installed. Thank you everyone for the straight talk about the good and bad during installation and road trips afterward. People read what you say!
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Glad I was able to help! :hi: Looking forward to the possibilities on the 1200 :mrgreen:
 
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140390#p140390:2ucrzzlv said:
dan filipi » Yesterday, 3:19 pm[/url]":2ucrzzlv]
:0fftopic:

Coming soon.....A member sidebar profile badge for all those with a C5 ignition!
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Check the sidebar profile........and the forum header up at the rotating banner rides :BigGrin:

Now back to the regularly scheduled discussion.
 
[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140415#p140415:37wycanc said:
C5Performance » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:43 am[/url]":37wycanc]
I have a C5 on at least 7 of my bikes (GL1000, CB350, CB750, Buell Blast, GS250, GS550, and Ural).

Do I get a special one?
My teachers always said I was "special" :cheeky:
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Thats like $3850 worth of C5 ignitions at least! You must know a guy...... :whistling:
 

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