swingarm mods for 1100 fat rear

[82a]

hey joe, got some pix?
first pix brake mod

 

[joedrum]

looks good ill have dig mine out soon ... right now im trying to work with 1000 swingarm and fatter tires from and back ... nice work 82a

 

[ekvh]

I wish I had done mine like that, I went on top. Is there clearance for the center stand?

 

[82a]

those aren't my mods, first pix is a 1100 17" wheel (82 brake bits) in a cx500 swingarm by 'Chopper Charles '

2-3 are just strengthening mods to a 1100 swingarm , on the french rat bike 'MALEVOLENT ' by Josef Dietrich (tigerace-wittmann)
https://s690.photobucket.com/user/tigera ... t=6&page=2

https://s690.photobucket.com/user/tigera ... t=6&page=1

some folks have mentioned it but haven't found any info out there for swapping a 1200 swingarm/rear diff into a 1100?

 

[Denver]

Cant say for sure, but when a buddy brought his 1100 swing arm over, to see if swing arm would bolt up. Looks like it will, & uses same bearing's. Moves rear tire back, look's like width is same at bearing's, when laid on top of 1200 swing arm. Hope this helps

 

[joedrum]

hmmmmm really

 

[badorderbob]

Hay Denver,..how far back in compersion [1200 to 1100 ] does the wheel go back?? :hi: Bob

 

[82a]

some basics
1100 oem
80-1 17" 130 max
82-3 16" 140 max (swingarm is wider)
15" is doable i think though haven't seen much

1200
15" wheel, haven't seen anything about that on a 1100 swingarm?
there are more car tire options in the 15" range, i think as small as 135, 16" is somewhere ~ 150

dunno what the mix & match story is with wheels, swingarms and the 2 pumpkins but gearing also comes into it

 

[ekvh]

Swapping the output shaft in the back cover is interchangeable 1000/1100/1200. So it could be made to drive the 1200 swing arm, but I don't think there's any easy way for the bearings to match up. Superskypilot at Saunders put a 1200 motor and swing arm into a 1000 frame, but I believe it was a fair amount of modification. I'm pretty sure he modified the shaft, the arm and the frame. It was before his bGirl build and I don't think he finished it yet. Life gets in the way. 2008-2009??

 

[82a]

joedrum » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:08 pm[/url]":1yxon4t1]
looks good ill have dig mine out soon ... right now im trying to work with 1000 swingarm and fatter tires from and back

have you seen the 17" spoke/rim option for the front? or you lookin for 16"?

 

[joedrum]

yes im pretty much up on wheel mods ...im liking the a lot of options in size ...even 18" rear with spokes and 4 1/4"wide rim and front rim wide too ...for hooch ..I live on gravel roads and need this kind of mod im open to anything ....I like the comstar mod a lot for spokes ...and there some rims out there at decent price at times ...but I haven't been able to move here at all

 

[Denver]

Seem's the wheel opening is moved 3-4" back. distance between bearing's looked the same. looked up numbers of bearing's, believe they were the same. when cash permits he is gona try. He loves the 1200 front end on his 1100. Wants to try swingarm, drive shaft & universal, rear end, wheel, brake's, & drive splines, SHOULD work.

 

[82a]

82a » Tue Nov 12, 2013 9:24 pm[/url]"prf7vf7]
some basics
1100 oem
80-1 17" 130 max
82-3 16" 140 max (swingarm is wider)
15" is doable i think though haven't seen much

1200
15" wheel, haven't seen anything about that on a 1100 swingarm?
there are more car tire options in the 15" range, i think as small as 135, 16" is somewhere ~ 150

dunno what the mix & match story is with wheels, swingarms and the 2 pumpkins but gearing also comes into it
1100.jpg

1200.jpg

might as well include 1500

 

[joedrum]

hmmmmmm ideas in my head now on one of my bikes ...that has 1200 in it now in 1100 frame

 

[Denver]

Spokes look good but unless you can use tubeless tire's, I stay away, tube's go flat too quick. Size is 150 if memory serves, little wider. Distance is clear on 82a's pictures from bearings to cross member is length increase spoke of earlier

 

[82a]

just adding info that i ran across

1500 swingarm into a 1200 frame has been done and there is info out there

 

[slabghost]

Any links?

 

[82a]

~ 2010 on this one, apparently there was a website up on it at one time
https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-g ... l1200.html

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/1087681-post7.html

another
https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-g ... l1200.html

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-g ... 200-2.html

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/1556021-post16.html

 

[82a]

finally found a 1200 swingarm/rear swap to 1100 frame, only one post
https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2430585-post21.html

I am using the 84 swing arm, rear drive and wheel, axle assy, and the brake support, and shocks (for now as they are 1" longer - 13 1/2" as oppesed to the 12 1/2" on the 82),. keeping the caliper from the 82. I had to make another spacer to go in between the caliper support and the swing arm. I didn't measure it as there is quite a bit of leeway in the axle end. Not a lot of clearance between the tire and the gas tank, bit looks to be ok.

found another
viewtopic.php?p=98365#p98365

startin to look like 1500 to 1100 is doable

here's a link for a 1500 wheel into a 1200 swingarm
https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/1679273-post13.html

To install a 1500 final drive into a 1200
To install the 1500 final / wheel with bigger double row bearing / and larger brake ....
Drill out the 4 swingarm holes to 7/16.
You must machine or grind the 1500 caliper mount to .500-.510 at the axle hole area on the side nearest swing arm and away from wheel
Cut 1/4 inch off the left side lower shock bolt, and then it goes in.
Use the 1200 axle and the single spacer from the 1500 on left side (optional use of 1500 axle).
Route the brake hose to the outside of the left shock.
You can use the 160/80-16 rear tire if loads are limited as heavy loads might lead to rubbing, or you can use a 150/80-16 rear Avon Venom X which has a load rating of 908 pounds. (stock GL1500 tire has 853 lb rating, Avon Venom X 160/80-16 is over 1,000, and stock 1200 rear tire MV85-15 is rated 910 lbs).
Using 1500 final / wheel / brake is reputed to center the wheel better in the swing arm than the stock 1200 which has a slight offset.
To install just the 1500 final drive ....
The 1200 flange will fit the 1500 drive if you want to install your 1200 wheel on a 1500 drive, but then you keep the 1200 smaller rear brake disc and mount and two spacers on left side, etc. To do this, you just need to drill out the 4 holes in the swing arm.
Use 1200's drive shaft either way.

As to tires, I offer this:

A 150/85-15 or MV85-15 is near 25.04" OA Diameter (a 1200 size)
A 150/90-15 is near 25.62" OA Diameter (also a 1200 size)
Quote:
A 160/80-16 is near 26.07" OA Diameter (stock 1500 size)
A 150/80-16 is near 25.44" OA Diameter
Note Aspect Ratios.



Dunlop "Elite II 491" MV85B15, has a load rating of 910 lbs. maximum @ 41 psi
Avon "Venom X" 150/90 B15 TL has a load rating of 993 lbs @ 49 psi
Dunlop "Elite II 491" 160/80B16 for the 1500 has a load rating of only 853 lbs. @ 41 psi
Avon "Venom X" 160/80 B16 TL with a load rating of 1019 lbs. @ 49 psi
Avon 150/80 B16 77 H "Venom X" is rated at 908 lbs. @ 49 psi,

edit - i did this all fast after a quick read, i think the swap involves a 1500 final / wheel / brake option in a 1200 swingarm, or you can also use the 1200 wheel with the 1500 drive

 

[82a]

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-g ... ssues.html