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<blockquote data-quote="AApple" data-source="post: 9089" data-attributes="member: 56"><p>The push for ethanol in fuels is done mostly, from what I unnerstand, to help clean up the emissions, and to allow the manufacturers more feedback/R&D on future engine fuels. The dumb thing is, it takes twice as much fuel(ethanol) by volume to create the same amount of energy, so fuel mileage itself is NOT going to be better with ethanol/ethanol blends...</p><p>Smaller engines will prolly work better, long range, for ethanol blends, but how long will it be before we actually see a 1.4 liter, ethanol fueled, 300+ HP automotive engine in a production car that gets 30-40mpg?</p><p></p><p>The issues with the ethanol blends in our fuels now is as has been said...the rubber components in our older vehicles(autos, bikes, boats, etc) are NOT formulated to endure alcohol fuels. Nor are the harder plastic components. Then you also has alcohol's natural tendency to absorb moisture, which leads to rust in steel fuel tanks, as well as corrosion on aluminuminum components,not to mention rough running engines due to the water, since H2O isn't really combustible....at least not normally!</p><p>Modern rebuild kits for carbs are <strong>supposedly</strong> alcohol friendly, but I don't believe it.</p><p> Fuel injectors are another issue all together, since in a lot of infector designs, the fuel runs around the coil windings, helping to keep the infectors cooler. Some of the coatings on the wire used for the coil windings will NOT survive with alcohol...it breaks the coatings down, and then you have shorted windings...which means ya gotta replace the infectors.....and then the cycle starts all over again.... :head bang: </p><p></p><p>The ATF deal will certainly help with some of these problems, such as seal damage/drying, and lubrication issues, but it's not a cure for over-rich ethanol blends.... :read:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AApple, post: 9089, member: 56"] The push for ethanol in fuels is done mostly, from what I unnerstand, to help clean up the emissions, and to allow the manufacturers more feedback/R&D on future engine fuels. The dumb thing is, it takes twice as much fuel(ethanol) by volume to create the same amount of energy, so fuel mileage itself is NOT going to be better with ethanol/ethanol blends... Smaller engines will prolly work better, long range, for ethanol blends, but how long will it be before we actually see a 1.4 liter, ethanol fueled, 300+ HP automotive engine in a production car that gets 30-40mpg? The issues with the ethanol blends in our fuels now is as has been said...the rubber components in our older vehicles(autos, bikes, boats, etc) are NOT formulated to endure alcohol fuels. Nor are the harder plastic components. Then you also has alcohol's natural tendency to absorb moisture, which leads to rust in steel fuel tanks, as well as corrosion on aluminuminum components,not to mention rough running engines due to the water, since H2O isn't really combustible....at least not normally! Modern rebuild kits for carbs are [b]supposedly[/b] alcohol friendly, but I don't believe it. Fuel injectors are another issue all together, since in a lot of infector designs, the fuel runs around the coil windings, helping to keep the infectors cooler. Some of the coatings on the wire used for the coil windings will NOT survive with alcohol...it breaks the coatings down, and then you have shorted windings...which means ya gotta replace the infectors.....and then the cycle starts all over again.... :head bang: The ATF deal will certainly help with some of these problems, such as seal damage/drying, and lubrication issues, but it's not a cure for over-rich ethanol blends.... :read: [/QUOTE]
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