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Message: <blockquote data-quote="joedrum" data-source="post: 113268" data-attributes="member: 98">suppose oldwing genius joedrum is going to get another set of grab bars ....after a genius destruction of the first set ... let me state again ... I think this is great system ... I have learned a lot from them even in my failure to get it done right 1 the grab bars are thin and made of steel and I found out if there is a leak in the runner at all you can tell it ... as the temp of the runner will be lower than the ones that are not leaking ...  2 idle is where leaking runners will cause the most problems when I had the system tight idle was good and the running was very good .. I wont say perfect cause I have yet to get things where jetting will improve things 4 so when I get to felling better I am going to back up and get to where I was before bad move on my part ...LOL ...</blockquote>