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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andyb" data-source="post: 161160" data-attributes="member: 65">And the culprit is... A cracked starter housing where the planetary gears meet the main starter body.  Basically, if the starter was not under tension, such as when I pulled it to test it, the end shaft would turn the sprocket.  When it was under tension, such as when it tried to turn the starter chain, the ring gear on the outside of the planetary gear would spin in the housing.  I never even thought to look for that since the starter spun when I looked at it.  So, now I have the engine out and the back cover off.  I have been wanting to get in there to take a look anyway so it was not totally wasted, but I sure could have saved a lot effort if I had known.   Now I have to decide if I want to go ahead and replace the water pump, etc while I have it out.  It still has the original pump and one of the gaskets (not the weep hole) in that area is leaking anyway.  I might also replace the rollers in the sprag clutch while I am at it.  Decisions, decisions.</blockquote>