82 1100 rebuild

[toytender01]

:hi: Well I am starting the rebuild of one of the 82 interstates I bartered for.. :clapping: ..looks to be in resonably good shape for its age. :lol: ..has the front break rotors in the trunk with callipers taped back...system is dry and pistons stuck :fiddle: some WD and air released one set of pistons but other caliper would not budge :Awe: (project for a later time) went to parts bike and retrived caliper removed pistons. :music: ..Cleaned up and ready for new breaks and seals....have breaks :good: placed seal kits on order..will be here between the 9th - 15th.. :beg: ..installed replacement rotors as the old ones need to be turned.. k: .. will provide pics if the camre works (just another thing that needs to be refurbished around here)Bob :rtfm: :whip: :whistling:

 

[plskthompson1]

Sounds like you have a pretty decent start there. At least you have a bike to pull parts from, I had to hunt all over for the parts I needed.

 

[joedrum]

good luck toy ....nothing like bringing one back to life .......i think the 82 grearing is well matched over all ,not as low as the 80-81 and not as tall as the 83 .... it sould be a nice ride when back on the road .....

 

[sledge]

Thats nice toytender , can't wait to see some pictures , hey Joe , i noticed you said , the 80 & 81 was geared low & 82 was little higher & 83 was higher still .... what did Honda do , change the inside gearing on all these years ??? they must be been just trying different things to see what worked. . . . . how can I tell what year I'm looking at , just looking at the motor and it not on a frame.????

 

[joedrum]

on the 83 engine it has a round and bigger oil level window ......the 82 is hard to tell but in sure that the engine number would tell you if you got it and it could be decifered it im not sure of the numbers thing but others do....

the 80-81 have different gears in the trans....the 82-83 have the same gears .....but the 83 has a different secondary reduction to the tran itself that gives it different final output

it seems to me that the 82 setup has the best all around gearing ....not bad in town taffic and street punch ....the 83 is flat out touring machine .....80-81 is flat out drag gearing as wings go ....

ive got what i think is a good 80-81 motor that im going to set up with 1000 heads with hotter cams 76 carbs and also 1000 ignition that totaly adjustable with aftermarket dyna electronic ignition and coils ....this is going to make a bad ass street bike im sure .....then i will have all three set up... :mrgreen:

 

[mcgovern61]

The little bit of research I did on the gearing differences and why was interesting. In the late '70's the national speed limit was limited to 55 MPH and all vehicles were supposed to be designed to be optimized at that speed range. Hence, the 80'-82' bikes run lower RPM at 55 MPH and the speedo's max at 80 MPH. Then the law changed back. It appears '83 is when they chose to setup for touring, low rpm at higher speeds and that trend continued.

 

[dan filipi]

The little bit of research I did on the gearing differences and why was interesting. In the late '70's the national speed limit was limited to 55 MPH and all vehicles were supposed to be designed to be optimized at that speed range. Hence, the 80'-82' bikes run lower RPM at 55 MPH and the speedo's max at 80 MPH. Then the law changed back. It appears '83 is when they chose to setup for touring, low rpm at higher speeds and that trend continued.

Makes sense to me.

It's interesting too that the earlier speedo went to just 80 mph. Honda at some time later bumped top readout to 150 .
May not have anything to do with the gearing changes, an 1100 could never do 150 but it would then indicate speeds greater than 80, but the changes took place right around the same time. The smaller numerals "55" are smaller on both speedos.

 

[sledge]

thats amazing facts . you would think to change final gearing on a Goldwing they would just changed the ( rear gear ) on the rear wheel....... are all the rears the same on all 1100's ??? I have noticed some Goldwings have like mine a 17" rear wheel , some are 16" . all these things change top speed , and RPM's

 

[joedrum]

this will drop your jaw .....the tallest rear end gear is in the 80-81 models but its only slightly taller than the 82-83 rear end gear .....yea they were realy stiring the pot through the 1100 series of bikes .....but its neat to have so many different versions ....

are you thinking of changing engines .....iwould think your bike wouild handle hills and mountains of tennessee with authority i think when i get the 83 running right it will have a pretty good punch in the lower end zone right now it struggles a bit....my 82 runs good and is gear much like the stock 1000s

im not sure how the 80 will run after im done making it set up like a 1000 ...it will for sure wake it up at higher rpm where the cam makes it power and the 80 81 1100s are the lowest geared goldwings of all yrs....this project is not on the burner yet ....

 

[mcgovern61]

May not have anything to do with the gearing changes, an 1100 could never do 150 but it would then indicate speeds greater than 80

Are you sure about that? With my '83 engine, I know that I have wound out third gear and at 6500 PRM the speedo is already at 80 MPH. I have wound it out to 7500 in each gear and with 4th and 5th winding out and the speedo pinned past 80 MPH in 3rd, I wonder how fast it was really going! Seemed kinda quick and no cars were close to keeping up!

 

[joedrum]

yeah gerry i thought your 83 ran well when i seen it ....im hoping to get mine running that well .....its hard to keep them from going any slower than 70mph ....what a pleasure it must have been on your trip ....the 83 is at home on the interstate for sure :mrgreen:

 

[mcgovern61]

yeah gerry i thought your 83 ran well when i seen it ....im hoping to get mine running that well .....its hard to keep them from going any slower than 70mph ....what a pleasure it must have been on your trip ....the 83 is at home on the interstate for sure :mrgreen:

Sure is Joe! On most of the trip back to NJ, I was averaging 78 MPH and the bike really wanted to go faster! 74 MPH is her sweet spot where you can hear the exhaust playing that sweet tune!

 

[sledge]

Oh no I'm not changing motors , I was just wondering thats all.......... the Only thing that could stand some work on mine is the Carbs. I can't seen to get them ( or keep them ) in Sync. ..... I am really thinking about building a Single Carb Intake this winter after it gets too cold to ride much . I have mine ideling good now , and once you get it up past 2,000 RPM's it does good , and the faster the better . BUT , pulling away from a red light , it runs rough , viberates , and all that . . . .

 

[joedrum]

yah carbs i need to rebuild the 83 carbs too .....and im always thinking about single carb or two carb setup too

 

[sledge]

I have looked at pictures of a single carb setup for a Goldwing , looks simple to build ... just a little bit of pipe , I'm thinking since a pre-74 VW Bug has a Flat 4 engine , between 1300 and 1600 cc's that the little single barrel carb should be about the right CFM's for a 1100 Goldwing. what do you guys think ??? I can buy a new VW Carb for an Old Bug from JC Whitney for under $200 . I bet a set of Goldwing Carbs new , ( if you could find any ) would cost 4 times that.

 

[joedrum]

yeah ithink its doable with that carb sledge .....i think that everybody got the intake lay out wrong .....some look like an X and some look like Hs ....but me that just leaves to much volume in the manifold .....if i do a single carb manifold its going to look like an I shape ....where the runners have the least ampount of travel and volume ......i think a horeshoe comimg out of the heads standing up and a connection from one to the other perferably in the middle .....with carb mounted in the middle of that.....

but if the stock carbs are set up right ......there hard to beat ....with your bike the way its geared having trouble at low rpm for sure means carb problems .....the 1100s have great carbs when right .....my 82 standard is perfect.....and if you use aff in the gas they stay that way ......

i may try to put one together this winter too ....single carb setup :mrgreen:

 

[sledge]

well one thing for sure , with 1 Carb you never get out of Sync...... :smilie_happy:

 

[joedrum]

maybe i need to take carbs out of my drum motor......so i never get out of sync when playing :whistling: :nea: :smilie_happy: :smilie_happy: :mrgreen:

 

[toytender01]

:hi: Well back to the 82 rebuild...I have tried to post this 3 times tonight and every time i lose it somewhere along the way....trying to post pix :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :head bang: :head bang: :head bang: :sensored: :sensored: :whistling........well I finaly did that right As you can see from pix it has a long way to go... I started with the front calipers because they were removed and the front disks wewe in the trunk....ordered caliper kits from JCW (Big mistake can buy the same parts from Cheap cycle parts for $19.00 instead of $34.00, that is what happens when you get in a hurry)...a disk set from parts bike...old disks ar turnable at a later date...rebuilt both front calipers and Installed..... removed front break master cylinder flushes with break fluid disassembled and decided to order rebuild parts from Cheapcycle... worked some on the 80 Cleaning and installing lower farings...PART 2of many to follow :smilie_happy: :builder: :music2: BOB :

 

[joedrum]

looks like a great start toy ......two at a time thats the way to go about it .....keep the posts coming :mrgreen: