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Greetings! I am new to the forum and am excited to be a part of the community.

Ever since my uncle bought a Goldwing in the late 70's, I have always loved the bike. I recently bought my first "real" street bike--a 2003 Yamaha Roadstar 1600. Shortly after purchasing it, I realized that just one motorcycle simply will not do. I am looking for a classic Goldwing to restore. I like the idea of "recycling" a bike and restoring it to its earlier beauty. I found a local Wing on Craigslist, a 1983 Interstate with 66,000 miles for $1650 with some room for negotiation. The bike has been for sale for about a month and hasn't sold and the seller is getting antsy. He said that he purchased the bike about 6 months ago with the thought of riding it while "fixing it up". Seeing as how he doesn't know the difference between a crescent wrench and a flux capacitor, he quickly realized he bit off more than he could chew and realized that it's very expensive to have someone else do all the work on your bike. He put tires on the bike and "did the brakes".

The bike looks to be in fair condition. All the parts are there, the plastic isn't cracked, and when he finally got it started, I didn't hear any knocking or tapping. It had a homemade one-carb conversion which was a work of modern art--I've never seen anything uglier on a machine in my life! Basically a welded semi-rectangular steel box for a manifold. The cardboard on the ground is for a valve cover leak. He tried to replace the gasket but wasn't terribly successful.

I realize that anyone hoping to make money on a restoration or even get what they put into a machine is being foolishly optimistic, but I don't want to buy a bottomless money pit, either. I can do almost all the work myself so labor costs aren't an issue. I just don't know enough about Goldwings to know what types of restoration costs I'm looking at.

I'm thinking that $1650 is a bit high; if I could get the bike for closer to $1,000 I'm inclined to take the plunge. I love the thought of a shiny thirty-year-old Goldwing in my garage next to my Roadstar!

Any thoughts?

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Does he still have the original carbs? (Sounds like you would need them!) $1,650 is too much (IMHO) for that bike. It does need work. The leaking valve cover is because they are not the original valve covers and many of the chrome aftermarket covers are cheap and do not seal correctly. Otherwise, it appears to be in decent shape (from 1000 miles away via pictures) :hihihi:

I would offer between $900 and $1000 max.
 
The speedometer isn't original - I wonder why???... I do like the '83 Interstate! And, no, you will not make money restoring an Oldwing, but it's a wonderful experience!
 
Make sure the stator is working! I know I bring this up all the time but "my first wing" had a bad stator and I'm sure the PO knew it.

Pretty bike though. For me a bad carb conversion would kill the deal, there are so many nice whole Wings out there to choose from.

Pass on this one!

~O~
 
IF he has the original carbs in good condition I'd go $1300 maybe.
That's only if the paint and chrome are in at least good condition. Same with the mufflers.

A turnkey set of 83 carbs are going to cost a few hundred. I'd allow $450 so yeah, $900-1000
 
The nice thing about these bikes is that once they are tuned and running right, the only way they become a money pit is if you want to keep adding onto it. So, if you spend say $1200.00 and then throw another $1,000 to tune it up and make it yours you would have a bike that you could rely on for a long time as long as normal maintenance is done to it.
 
Not much left to add on this one. You know the motor runs. I'd talk him down as far as I could. Nice looking bike.
 
I have an 83, and love the bike. The carbs are definately and issue, as for the mileage, that is very low mileage if it is accurate. Rebuilding the original carbs isn't that hard of a job, I found getting them balanced was a bit or a chore. I have found mine to be extremely reliable once in good shape. Personally I wouldn't go over $1000 because of the carbs, check on Ebay for a set of 83 carbs. Oh by the way, I know what a capacitor is but what is a flux capacitor.
 
I so much appreciate all of your responses. Due to my lack of knowledge about Wings, I didn't catch that some of the parts (speedo for example) weren't original. After scouring ebay and getting some ideas of the costs of some of the parts and after reading all of the responses here, I pointed out the issues to the seller and offered him $800. He said he had decided to "fix the bike and put it back on the market". I suspect that he's going to spend another thousand dollars to have a bike worth about $1500. Well, the search continues... In the meantime, I'll be around here learning all I can. Thanks again!

If I'm not mistaken the flux capacitor needed 1.21 Gigawatts of power to make the time travel possible. This bike I looked at was only putting out 1.16...
 
TheReal309":18onq0hf said:
If I'm not mistaken the flux capacitor needed 1.21 Gigawatts of power to make the time travel possible. This bike I looked at was only putting out 1.16...

:smilie_happy: :hihihi: :smilie_happy:

Well, it's prolly better to let it go...sounds like it did need some work and parts, perhaps more than you were willing/able to do. Not a bad thing, tho...there are more out there in better condition, and...riding season is upon us, so they should be coming out of the woodwork before long!
 
The lack of stock carbs is what would have worried me about it all unless the single carb was set up correctly. Good luck and looking for one is just as fun... well maybe almost as fun as riding one.
 
AApple":27ilkrkj said:
TheReal309":27ilkrkj said:
If I'm not mistaken the flux capacitor needed 1.21 Gigawatts of power to make the time travel possible. This bike I looked at was only putting out 1.16...

:smilie_happy: :hihihi: :smilie_happy:

Well, it's prolly better to let it go...sounds like it did need some work and parts, perhaps more than you were willing/able to do. Not a bad thing, tho...there are more out there in better condition, and...riding season is upon us, so they should be coming out of the woodwork before long!

The more I think about it, I think it is probably better. I don't mind doing the work, i can do most everything myself (especially with help here!) and I have a wife who indulges my hobbies as far as $$ goes, but the more I thought about the bike the worse I felt. I don't mind finding a bike in somewhat rough shape; it doesn't have to be rideable while I restore it, I since I have another bike.

Since I was young, I've always wanted to restore a classic car. I've redirected that desire and taken two wheels out of the equation. Hopefully I can find something and share my progress along the way...
 
The first rule in buying a vehicle, regardless of how many feet it has, is that if it don't make ya tingle, and feel good from the git go, move on. If ya ever have a second thought about the purchase, it's prolly not a good idea to go ahead with it. I've bought a few(well quite a few) turds over the years as compulsive buys....every one was a friggin disaster.
Hang in there...you'll find the "One" that speaks to ya. :eek:k:
 
My advice would be to find a more original condition bike similar to my purchase, just make sure that you check for a rats first. ( don't really want to see a "Rats Nest 2" )
 
Omega Man":3fjgd9wc said:
These are about $1,000 to 1,500 more than that bike, but I found many beautiful bikes on CL there in Florida.

https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/mcy/3716177163.html

https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/mcy/3700182842.html
I'd talk him down...new battery is a red flag for me.

https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/mcy/3702558732.html
Nice!

https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/mcy/3692144128.html

https://miami.craigslist.org/pbc/mcy/3635878739.html
About $1,000 too much.

~O~

Thanks! Great minds must think alike; I actually had already set up an appointment to see one of the bikes on that list. I'm cautiously optimistic--I'm going to have my wife with me to drive the car home and I'm bringing my helmet with me... :cool:
 

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