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[slabghost]

The whole purpose of this site is to assist one another to keep our "oldwings" road ready. From our computers we cannot see, smell, feel ,or touch your bike. We rely solely on your descriptions. We have a great membership ready to share what we know to help. What suggestions you choose to apply or ignore is on you. Time and again though I've seen issues go unresolved for weeks or months only to finally be "fixed" by a process suggested very early on and ignored. Most members here are extremely adept at understanding issues as described. Though we joke a bit as friends do. Suggested procedures are mostly tried and true. BS doesn't last long here. Many have gone to great lengths to prove or disprove popular notions. If you ignore suggestions in favor of others you do so at your own risk and may well be embarrassed at some point. We'll be quite happy to say "I told you so.".

 

[OldWrench]

Very good points, I know I have learned so much about my bike from the folks on this forum, and the information posted here. When attempting to work a problem it is to easy to get tunnel vision and miss the problem, how do I know this, have done it many times.

 

[Dusterdude]

Very well said

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[dan filipi]

Well said.

I find too that sometimes a suggestion can be way off base also but the intent was still to help. I've made many like that then realize I didn't understand or mid-understood what the problem was

 

[Denver]

Would argue if anything said was B S, :hihihi: but have nothing to add, or dispute. :thank_you:

 

[desertrefugee]

Agreed. Now which oil did you say was best?


(running and ducking)

 

[OldWrench]

Agreed. Now which oil did you say was best?

The one your using.

 

[Denver]

Fresh seems to be a pretty fair choice. :hihihi:

 

[brianinpa]

desertrefugee » Mon Jul 18, 2016 12:33 am[/url]":j91rdb06]
Agreed. Now which oil did you say was best?


(running and ducking)

I may be wrong, but I don't think that subject causes a big stir here... now ATF versus Seafoam, that's a completely different matter.

 

[slabghost]

We've had a few discussions over seafoam and atf. None got out of hand. It's your bike and your decision always.

 

[OldWrench]

It is always easy to stir the pot, but sometimes what spills out isn't worth the effort.

 

[skiri251]

This forum is very active and open-minded.
I can consult anything not just oldwing but motorcycles, cars, everything and always get good advices.
Same thing cannot be said of lots of other forums on the Net.

 

[OldWrench]

Skiri, that is so true, there are a great bunch of people here.

 

[Tom_Charlton]

I agree with the comments. Could I ask what prompted this post?

It's over 100 degrees here; I rode to town & back earlier and my legs were cooking after 2 miles. I think I'll just stay in the A/C

 

[slabghost]

PurpleGL1200I » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:05 pm[/url]":1jmy1h40]
I agree with the comments. Could I ask what prompted this post?

It's over 100 degrees here; I rode to town & back earlier and my legs were cooking after 2 miles. I think I'll just stay in the A/C

A/C is my favorite place just now too.
As for the question-

Time and again though I've seen issues go unresolved for weeks or months only to finally be "fixed" by a process suggested very early on and ignored.

 

[desertrefugee]

slabghost » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:12 pm[/url]":ulurhx69]

PurpleGL1200I » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:05 pm[/url]":ulurhx69]
I agree with the comments. Could I ask what prompted this post?

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As for the question-

Time and again though I've seen issues go unresolved for weeks or months only to finally be "fixed" by a process suggested very early on and ignored.

With respect, on this as well as other forums where help is being sought out, the problem is defined by the OP (sometimes pretty well and sometimes not so well) and then members begin to offer up a series of suggestions, many of which might be on the money, but either beyond a user's capability or comprehension and, so, ignored. Also, there are often many potential "fixes" offered up and the poor user is tasked with picking and choosing the correct nugget buried in the chatter. And some of the suggestions are wrong causing "wild goose chases".

This is pretty typical and most of us could walk through suggestions for, say, a no start situation pretty quickly. But, rough running, high oil consumption or strange vibration might have many possible causes requiring trial and error. Not always straightforward to identify for someone faced with multiple choice.

Not sure what my message is here other than it's not always as simple as you might think picking out the correct nugget from all the responses. But, I think that atmosphere ends up helping all of us in the long run with defining the scope of the problem(s).

 

[slabghost]

desertrefugee » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:14 pm[/url]":muhpv61l]

slabghost » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:12 pm[/url]":muhpv61l]

PurpleGL1200I » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:05 pm[/url]":muhpv61l]
I agree with the comments. Could I ask what prompted this post?

* * *

* * *
As for the question-

Time and again though I've seen issues go unresolved for weeks or months only to finally be "fixed" by a process suggested very early on and ignored.

With respect, on this as well as other forums where help is being sought out, the problem is defined by the OP (sometimes pretty well and sometimes not so well) and then members begin to offer up a series of suggestions, many of which might be on the money, but either beyond a user's capability or comprehension and, so, ignored. Also, there are often many potential "fixes" offered up and the poor user is tasked with picking and choosing the correct nugget buried in the chatter. And some of the suggestions are wrong causing "wild goose chases".

This is pretty typical and most of us could walk through suggestions for, say, a no start situation pretty quickly. But, rough running, high oil consumption or strange vibration might have many possible causes requiring trial and error. Not always straightforward to identify for someone faced with multiple choice.

Not sure what my message is here other than it's not always as simple as you might think picking out the correct nugget from all the responses. But, I think that atmosphere ends up helping all of us in the long run with defining the scope of the problem(s).

There is often a blizzard of suggestions. One of the best aspects of our membership. It seems the simple fairly effortless solutions are often the most ignored. If they had in fact been tried the result may have been success or at least given a better description of the issue. For instance bike doesn't start. Kill switch? Off or non functional. Fuel off or very old. Gas cap vent not working. All of these are simple and cost free checks that can lead to better diagnosis of problems. Simple solutions like these are presented for almost every issue. And sometimes missed but later found to be the issue. I never would have guessed a highway peg would cause a vibration noise only above 3k rpm. I will now suggest it if ever that issue arises again. Granted this is a complicated world but simple solutions still can fix what seem to be complicated problems.

 

[dkl]

My 2 Cents​

During the 60s, 70s, & 80s Master Mechanics learned their Trade from years of working on different machines, experiencing different problems, trying different solutions, getting different results, and then remembering those symptoms and results. It was not about being the best with a wrench,,,,,it was the wealth of experience and knowledge hidden in their Brain that made them a Master Mechanic.

The world has changed with the Web, now when I buy a new to me junker, my first move is to join forums that focus on that particular model. If something is wrong, 9 out of 10 times it has happened before, someone somewhere has experienced it, fixed it, and Posted It. I am no great mechanic, but I can fix most anything using the Web, and the Vast Amount of Knowledge available.

 

[desertrefugee]

dkl » Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:07 pm[/url]":1hv4yrt7]

My 2 Cents​

During the 60s, 70s, & 80s Master Mechanics learned their Trade from years of working on different machines, experiencing different problems, trying different solutions, getting different results, and then remembering those symptoms and results. It was not about being the best with a wrench,,,,,it was the wealth of experience and knowledge hidden in their Brain that made them a Master Mechanic.

The world has changed with the Web, now when I buy a new to me junker, my first move is to join forums that focus on that particular model. If something is wrong, 9 out of 10 times it has happened before, someone somewhere has experienced it, fixed it, and Posted It. I am no great mechanic, but I can fix most anything using the Web, and the Vast Amount of Knowledge available.

Man, ain't that the truth, from Goldwings to washing machines! Very true.

 

[OldWrench]

During the 60s, 70s, & 80s Master Mechanics learned their Trade from years of working

I little something about the term "Master Mechanic or Technician". You will see guys in shops wearing a patch that says ASE Master Tech. What that really means is he is good at taking written tests and yes has a certain level of experience and knowledge. What it does not mean is that this person knows everything about what he is working on.

To me the proof of a Master Tech is a person that knows how to solve a problem as quickly and effectively as possible and takes great pride in the work that he or she does.

As for forum information, it is great and probably one of the best tools we have today no matter what the subject is.