HELLPPP! REAR WHEEL INSTALL

[Rondi]

In the process of installing rear wheel on '84 gl1200 and torquing axle nut. From what I've found on the net I either tighten pinch bolt first then axle nut or axle nut first then pinch bolt. My problem, using tightening pinch bolt first method, is that as I tighten axle nut it pulls the axle to the right! I tried putting a screw driver in the hole on the left side of the axle while tightening nut but with 69 lbs torque it pulls the axle so tight I can't pull screwdriver out. What AM I doing wrong?
Fortunately I've got the honda factory manual which is useless!!!

 

[dan filipi]

Axle nut then pinch bolt is how the 1100 is done.
The axle bolt should go in only so far and stop.

 

[joedrum]

:rant: those manuals ive never seen them help anything :mrgreen:

 

[Steve83]

Make sure you have the spacers and distance collars installed, and in the right places. I'm not sure 'bout the '84's, but the 1100s have a collar inside the final drive, and another inside the wheel, between the bearings. If either one is missing, the axle will pull in as you tighten the nut.

 

[dan filipi]

Might want to have a look at these pages then going forward in the Honda Shop Manual.
gallery/image_page.php?album_id=1189&image_id=12434

And this page going forward in the Haynes Manual. Both are in the Gallery.

This page has a clear shot of the spacers. gallery/image_page.php?album_id=1172&image_id=11984

 

[Rondi]

Thanks to all that offered suggestions. I did however determine the problem.
From what I'd read of certain web sites dealing with installing the axle, they described putting a screwdrive, or something equivalent, to keep the axle from spinning as the axle nut is tightened. Problem was that I tried doing that only to find that as I torqued the axle nut the axle was pulled to the right, consequently binding the screwdriver before I reached the torque value on the nut. What was never mentioned in any of the sites describing how to install the axle is the fact that there is a shoulder on the axle which butts against the outer collar, which allows the torquing of the nut! Tightening the nut til it hit the shoulder of the collar means that the hole in the axle on the left side will be pulled into the swingarm, thus making it impossible to use a screwdriver to prevent the axle from spinning as the axle nut is turned. Don't know if my description makes sense but it is surprising I couldn't find the proper way to do this anywhere on the wing web sites. I'm sure to some of you reading this you'll realize how easy it is, WHEN YOU KNOW HOW IT'S DONE!!! :mrgreen:
Thanks again and have a merry christmas

 

[Steve83]

The hole in the axle should be outside the swingarm after the nut is torqued. The hole is there, as you said, to insert a tool to prevent the axle from turning while tightening the nut. If the axle is being pulled into the swingarm so that the hole is not accessible, there is a problem. Either the axle is going into the outer collar, something is missing, or the swingarm is bent.

It should look like this: (hopefully cleaner!)