I taught my kid in the mid 80's , on a 185 Suzuki , he could ride just fine... it was the starting out , and the stopping he had a problem with. he finally got so he would tack it up both feet on the ground and let go of the Clutch , and hand on..... :smilie_happy: ..... and when he wanted to stop , he would kinda slide and step off . . . . BUT , the key was just like when I taught him how to ride a Bicycle , we went to the School Ball Field , ( red clay dirt ) , no Concrete , no Pavement , and no Rocks. :smilie_happy: