poorboy kit

[mcgovern61]

Just for the record, here is what a worn out front main bearing looks like;
Front Main Bearing:

81 Engine 016

• mcgovern61
• Jun 30, 2012

Front main crank journal bearing

Notice the wear is even all the way around. But look at the center and rear bearings:
Center Bearings:

81 Engine 017

• mcgovern61
• Jun 30, 2012

Center main crank journal bearing

Rear Main Bearing:

81 Engine 015

• mcgovern61
• Jun 30, 2012

Rear main crank journal bearing

It appears to me that the front bearing wears all the way around evenly, but the other two are taking more of an axial load.

I agree with Ron, I wouldn't be concerned.

 

[danf]

The pulley is expensive, but it's nice..$130.00 each is what I paid him, perfect fit though.. ...Don't know what Poorboy Don sells his for..Oh... I am sold out..

 

[82a]

what's the story with mounting an ALT pulley on top of a cam pulley? instead of the crank

 

[danf]

I do not know... Maybe someone else knows..

 

[Anonymous]

what's the story with mounting an ALT pulley on top of a cam pulley? instead of the crank

You know that might not be abad idea cut out all the rad problems if it causes too much strain on the one side you can always twin it or use one side to power the turbocharger https://www.ebay.ca/itm/goldwing-model-6 ... 35bf0024fd and the other side to run the alternator.

:smilie_happy: :smilie_happy: We can call it the 82A kit !! :salute:

btw what does 82a stand for ? two times bettern a 41b?

 

[dan filipi]

what's the story with mounting an ALT pulley on top of a cam pulley? instead of the crank

To my knowledge no one has done this.
I've thought about it and figured not only do the cams turn too slow but too much extra strain is put on the cam belt making it too risky.
There is a kit out there that mounts an alt on a special belt cover, that one uses a pulley on the crank.

 

[82a]

btw what does 82a stand for ? two times bettern a 41b?

well, my 82a is not this ..ahem, 86e ..aka espande :shock: :whistling: :hihihi:
https://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicle ... Z396538484 :salute:

espande fully load runs great

 

[mcgovern61]

hmm 86 1100?

Pretty sure that is an '82, but....I'm just fishing for answers! :fishin:

 

[Anonymous]

hmm 86 1100?

Pretty sure that is an '82, but....I'm just fishing for answers! :fishin:

yep but his add says 86 :smilie_happy: :smilie_happy: :smilie_happy: :smilie_happy: :smilie_happy: :mrgreen:

They are asking alot for an 1100

:smilie_happy: espande might be a mexican version of the bike? :smilie_happy:

Ola !! :salute:

 

[sledge]

Gosh that Blower sure looks good , but I'm sure THAT is a lot of strain on the Cam bearings . I had a GMC 671 Blower on a 390 Ford in 1969 . and it put a load on that Big Block , .......but , when you spin them fast enough , you sure can feel the power coming on . :smilie_happy: ..... but back to the Pulleys , I really like the looks of them , and like Dan said , if you drove the Alt. off the Cam Pulley it would most likely be too slow , the Cam turns Half the speed of the Crank all the time . opcorn:

 

[82a]

https://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 95#p522295

https://www.htctech.net/~squirts/stator.htm
https://s77.photobucket.com/user/squirts ... 2.jpg.html

dan filipi » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:50 pm[/url]":2y093qbh]

what's the story with mounting an ALT pulley on top of a cam pulley? instead of the crank

To my knowledge no one has done this.
I've thought about it and figured not only do the cams turn too slow but too much extra strain is put on the cam belt making it too risky.
There is a kit out there that mounts an alt on a special belt cover, that one uses a pulley on the crank.

 

[dan filipi]

82a » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:25 pm[/url]":3ea05nz9]
https://www.ngwclub.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 95#p522295

https://www.htctech.net/~squirts/stator.htm
https://s77.photobucket.com/user/squirts ... 2.jpg.html

dan filipi » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:50 pm[/url]":3ea05nz9]

what's the story with mounting an ALT pulley on top of a cam pulley? instead of the crank

To my knowledge no one has done this.
I've thought about it and figured not only do the cams turn too slow but too much extra strain is put on the cam belt making it too risky.
There is a kit out there that mounts an alt on a special belt cover, that one uses a pulley on the crank.

A year later, Oldewing did it. That's cool.

Are you 82aspy at NGW?

 

[82a]

actually this link is dated as [Updated: Saturday, April 10, 2010 4:24:44 PM]
https://www.htctech.net/~squirts/stator.htm

shows 3 pix of an alt running off the right side cam pulley

unfortunately, this link on that page is dead, ya 82aspy

Kinda' NEW! A VERY nicely done GL 1200 Conversion page is now available! Very detailed directions and lots of up-close pictures to help you git 'r done!

here's info from that page as well as link with plans
Click HERE for the PLANS

The schematics are pretty complete. I made some revisions to them after I got them, but didn't change the schematics in case you wanted to retain their original premise.

The original plans use a plastic sewing machine pulley bolted to the end of the cam shaft head. The pulley is pretty large, necessitating it's mounting outside of the cam cover. The original "architect" of the plans also had the original cam gear modified to accept a key way. He said that this would make sure the pulley didn't twist on the head. I saw this additional step as unnecessary and more costly because you'd have to get the cam gear machined. Instead, I used a longer bolt, and a piece of black (water) pipe as a spacer between the cam gear and back of the pulley. The bolt threads through the pipe and into the original cam gear bolt hole. A large washer followed by a lock washer keeps everything tight. The pulley used in the plans is mounted externally, as I said, and is larger in diameter to increase the revolutions of the alternator pulley. I figure an increase of two-fold or so at the alternator pulley. While this would be OK for a motorcycle mainly used for "around town", I think that most any 4 cylinder motorcycle should provide enough rpm's at speed to keep the alternator at peak speed. I know that my Wing, and Kawi (both 4 cylinders) operate at around 4,000 rpm's at 60-65 mph. I think that a "regular" sized pulley could even be employed if you were attaching this to a 2 cylinder motorcycle such as a Harley. Their servicar conversions (used for police work) have a belt set up similar to my plans except the assembly is mounted longitudinally in the frame with the alternator in the front of the motor.

The benefits of using a smaller pulley (as opposed to the sewing machine pulley) are as follows:

1. A smaller pulley allows you to do less cutting on the cam cover.

2. A "regular" pulley is easier to find, and I personally don't like the idea of using a plastic pulley, regardless of its strength.

I recommend a smaller diameter alternator in order to save precious foot space on the right side of the bike. I like the single wire Chevy alternators because they're cheap and have a built in regulator, and you can find them anywhere. The drawback to the Chevy alternator, though, is that it's pretty "plump". Toyota, Honda Civic, and I'm told, Chevy Cavalier alternators are considerably smaller in diameter. I mentioned the internal regulator in the Chevy alternator.... This isn't a "have to have" item as you can use the motorcycle's regulator and rectifier (and all other 12 volt system items) as you would with the original stator. I ran the wire from the alternator across the block and into the original 3-wire hook-up located on the lower left side of the bike near the battery (on an '81 Wing). If you haven't done so, get rid of the original plastic 3- wire connection. They're prone to overheating and building increased resistance (which may have fried the stator in the first place).
JC Whitney mail order sells a cheap spot light mounting bracket of a two piece design that's made to fit around 1" tubing. I think they're about 6 bucks or so. I used them, bolted to a piece of flat steel, as the alternator mount. You can come up with something similar pretty cheap. Let's see.... I'm trying to make sure I have covered most of the discrepancies. .. I think so... Look over the plans and if you have any questions, please feel free to give me a holler.