Single carburetor manifold???

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I didn't read the fine print, but it looks like it uses 1000 or 1100 elbows which don't line up correctly with the 1200 heads. 1200 intake diameter at the head is smaller too, so there is a potential to catch fuel there.
 
well I think its not bad ... not sure how you hook up to exhaust ... but it sure will be one sided as far as the runners go ....personally i think the dft is better choice in carb and with transition piece it should raise carb and choke it some this alone will stop a lot of icing .....seems like you might be able to turn it too ...so to get e-choke to stay on maybe ....i personally don't like them anyway ...me the throttle lock and manual choke is all you need and anything pass that is a pain to me enough said there not saying it isn't good for others ....

i also think this is a good try ...its best feature is it total centering of the charge and with dft weber carb it should do nice ....be interesting to see if it works good ... i think its mot a bad gamble but 300$ is hard truth to me ....

seems to me you are paying to have a manifold made for the price of a carb to put on it ... and that aint bad ... considering it will hook right up and go ....transition and dft carb would be my way of using this ..... :headscratch: :lazy: :read: :laptop: :mrgreen:
 
Looks similar to the HOTT build manifold I have posted here and for the price you could buy a mig and follow HOTTs instructions. I suspect this one is for sale because it doesn't work right. I bought a deal similar. All the type 1 vw manifolds had the carburetor raised a good 4" above the cross tubes so that alone might make it work. That is just the manifold for sale. No carb. The intake horns are not included either.

HOTT's build-- viewtopic.php?f=107&t=4116
 
[url=https://www.classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=108944#p108944:1blzv1m3 said:
chilidawg » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:06 pm[/url]":1blzv1m3]
I'm doing this to an 1100, looks to me like it shouldn't be a problem???

But what do I know?!?

The only difference in line up between the 1200 and 1100 is the width so seeing as this manifold was fitted to a 1200 using 1100 horns, it should bolt up ok but may have to trim ends a bit shorter. Not a problem.
 
Agree, Dan, but I am thinking the 1200 with stock heads would maintain flow velocity with smaller 1200 elbows and corresponding runner diameter. Might be better with 1000 heads like that. I hope to find out this spring.
 
Looks similar to the HOTT build manifold

I requires that carb even to work a little bit.
Sorry. When ever you see those large flowing tubes
you have an improper situation. As much as that looks all zoomie
and everything, it's wrong. Been There, done got the T-shirt.
Avoid.

HOTT
 
hmmmm id say ... listen to hott ....its nothing like his at all ...as a constructor of just about anything ... I am not impressed at all ...it would never get my 300$ ever ... but I know others don't think like me or have skills to do this ... or the skill to see what this is worth
 
[url=https://www.classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=108961#p108961:cw01jejp said:
joedrum » Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:40 am[/url]":cw01jejp]
hmmmm id say ... listen to hott ....its nothing like his at all ...as a constructor of just about anything ... I am not impressed at all ...it would never get my 300$ ever ... but I know others don't think like me or have skills to do this ... or the skill to see what this is worth

+1 Paint doesn't hide ****** welds very well!!!
 
[url=https://www.classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=108958#p108958:3m2gva4q said:
dan filipi » Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:30 pm[/url]":3m2gva4q]
I would like to see how this manifold performs with a Weber 32/32 and the 2 to 1 riser/adapter.
Hi, I have a 77 Wing that has had the typical carburetor issues. After getting a pilot jet chewed up and stuck in one of the carb bodies, I decided to go a different direction. I began searching for a repair when we found the single carb conversion looked at all the different setups. The one I liked the look of the best, as it has a smooth look and smooth transition to the intake runners, was the one HOTT had posted pictures of.. Also I did not have to make or modify anything. It just plugs into the stock intake manifolds, hook up your cables and fuel line.
I recently had talked to Ric (HOTT) about his single carb conversion for my 77 GL1000. He took a 32DFT Weber carb, the stock bell crank, and throttle cable holder I supplied and sent him, HOTT machined the bell crank to fit the throttle shaft of the Weber. Ric (Hott) also made an air filter base plate to fit the 32DFT as no one had a filter setup to work on our bikes. He sent me his manifold he built, which has a threaded pipe tube welded to the bottom if you decide to heat the manifold (witch even in S fla is needed) He sent back the modded carb, a carb to manifold adapter, and air filter to me to try on my GL1000. I installed it, which did not require any special tools. You could use the 1.75" thick filter if you like, but the 2.5" filter fit fine and still allows the factory tool tray to fit perfectly. I cranked the bike up and it started immediately and within a minute it was idling fine. The bike is now very throttle responsive off idle and it settles down to idle very quick, unlike the stock carbs that sometimes hang at a higher idle before coming down.

The weather was in the low to mid 40s on my first ride. The first few miles ran very well, but as I got a little further into the ride I got a mid range hesitation when rolling the throttle on… I pulled over to look at the bike and when I put my hand on the manifold it was ice cold, my fingers would almost stick to it. When I got home I pulled up to the garage and the bike was idling, but not as smooth. Kinda like it was loading up some. I pulled out a hair dryer and turned it on aiming it at the manifold.. Within about a minute the bike smoothed out perfectly. I then decided I was gonna need some warmth on the manifold to run in the really cold weather. Now my bike is a naked wing and this problem may not be an issue with fairing bikes. I also did not remove the heat shield between the radiator and stock carb rack, allowing radiator heat, which I think may have helped the icing issue also.

I was looking at the bike thinking about removing the water feed tubes and drilling, tapping them for fittings but was not really fond of doing all that work. So I decided to go with oil. I got an oil filter adapter that had the oil cooler line fittings on it. This way I got a two for one deal. I got an easy spin on type oil filter. and with a simple run of rubber tubing. I also have heat to the manifold. So if I ever decided to go back to original and restore the bike, I could could remove it all and bolt on the stock parts again.
Note: Hook up the hoses by using fuel injection hose clamps. They are much better than standard fuel hose clamps.
Since trying HOTTs manifold, I really don't see switching back happening. What I really like is there is only one carb to deal with, so synchronizing is not required. Also, now I do not get the occasional primary chain clunking. If you need to rejet or do basic work, the top of the carb comes right off and you do not have to remove it from the bike.
I filled up the filter with oil, spun it on, and fired it up. I topped off the little oil I lost from the filter change, I warmed the GL up a little and then we took of for a ride. My friend Dave rode the Wing and I followed on my ZRX1100. We got out on a long wooded back road, after about 20 minutes of riding. Dave did a 5th gear roll on from 65mph. At 95 it was still pulling hard, with lots more available but he figured not knowing the bike well that was plenty fast enough. There was no stumbling or any glitches at all. We rode about 80 miles and the bike was flawless, very responsive the sound of the second barrel kicking in is incredible the bike has no running or fuel issues what so ever. Don’t know the mileage with this set up as it was so fun to ride we forgot to get a reading. I can just say this is what the old GL was meant to be, a brute stong sport bike instead of a so-so tired old plow horse. I know some will nay say the single carb setup, for this reason or that...

I won’t mind though, cuz I will be busy having a great time out on the wing enjoying the back twisty roads!

A special thanks to HOTT for the machining magic and making this pretty much a plug and play.
Happy Motoring!
 
now there you go ... I don't know about you guys but I see the total honesty in this post ... and I also see conformation from another on his praise and colaberation with ric ..hot ..custom oldwing builder ...knowing fla very well ... even stock carbs can ice there ive had it happen many times when the mongrel was my only transportation down there ...well not really my refusal to use the car .. in the right humidity and 60degrees the mongrel would ice up and run like crap and never really warm its way out of it ...great post ... speaks a lot for the transition plate and set up....let it be said again this bike as mine suffers no off throttle bogging and there are others too ...I don't think transition piece is the cure all ... but it sure is a huge boost ... but it seems jetting and choking in other places dose the same in getting bog down .... like to see more of the oil heater in pics .... great post ...
 
The oil filter Spin on adaptor came from Randaks Website, once installed its tough to photograph cause its all pretty well tucked away Plus i suk as a photographer :Awe:

you can make out the fitting nipples in this photo
you can see the warming tube just below the plenum body
in this photo you can see the oil line on its way to the plenum
The factory carbs (with Randaks rebuild kit installed BTW) work fine on this particular bike but the 4 into 2bbl is the HOTT(pun intended) setup. Much faster Starting and warm up, plus waaaaay mo responsive, this bike does not run out of pull.
 
I LIKE the oil line deal!! That whole set up is "BITCHEN" I didn't know Ric sold those set up's or my old lazy fat bottom would have Never went thru the work of doing my own!! Looks Outstanding!(don't they run beautiful with 1 carb)
I used to run a old 63 plymouth with a stage 2 max wedge, when i took off the 2 4bbl's and went with just 1 carb, life was grand! Thank You for the Great write up and pic's :salute:
 
This was actually a collaboration with my since grade school riding partner and best friend Allen (we are both now north of 55) who has all the people skills and much technical skill and myself who has some tech skill and the research skills.

This all started out with dragging an old rusty 75 GL out of the Storage barn which we had stored a decade ago see if we could get it running again. Between the two of us we now own three running GL's and two non-running parts bikes. Now if we could just figure out how to get them to charge a GPS and cell phone at the same time
Lol
 
hmmm my bike being a 1200 transplant into 1000 ... I have oil lines on top of motor ... and have been held in ck on bike work by this winter were having .. so I am kind of sitting gathering from others work lately not something I do much of but I must say its been very fruitful for me to see this things from this end like your great work here ... the oil thing has been on my mind the entire time now I see the results of yours and I am gathering it in big time .....big 6 :thanks:
 
nice write up... as for your gps cell phone charging issues... I bout at wal Mart a dual usb and lighter plug style setup.. it has 2 usbs and the plug adapter..Will post pictures when I can get out to bike.. probably 30 minutes or so...stay tuned....

As promised the picture....
 

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