1200 Charging Issuses

[brianinpa]

I have an opportunity to buy a 1984 1200 Standard from a guy that has just put a lot of time and money into maintenance. Everything was going great, but now there is a problem. The stator is not charging...

He bought the bike as a barn find and was going to use it as a parts bike, but decided to put it back on the road and then sell it (and his 2 other 1200 Standards) when he bought a 2010 GL1800. The timing belts have been changed, forks have been redone, new battery, new fluids, carbs were overhauled, and if I believe the owner that this guy bought it from the bike only has 7,000 miles on the dial.1 So, if I get it, I know I have an engine removal as soon as I get it home, because there is no way I will be doing a poorboy conversion to it since it looks so nice.

My questions are many, but I guess the biggest one is, in order to change the stator on the 1200, does the entire engine need to be opened up or is it just the back case, and then, what else comes along with the rest of the job of changing a stator?

 

[dan filipi]

Just the large back cover needs to come off for stator change.
Good time to have a close look at the clutch condition.

However, I have a hard time believing the stator would be bad with such low miles.
Almost unbelievably low miles.

84S has a real dial speedo.
Check this bike carefully. Speedo's are easily changed or set back.

 

[brianinpa]

That was my thought too Dan... and also one of my hold-ups.

 

[joedrum]

well if it runs good don't have any lower end noise ... get it ... that's it .. if the price is right for you ...that's a great bike ..brian

 

[dan filipi]

Can you look at the yellow wires plug?
Maybe that's all that's wrong with the stator.

 

[Ansimp]

More than likely it will be at least 107k miles especially if you have a charging issue. Do all the tests as I always say the stator is usually the most robust part in the charging circuit.

 

[dan filipi]

Even 107 ain't bad for a 1200.

It's a judgement call whether it's value is what he's asking.
What is he asking anyway?

The time of year should affect the price some.

 

[brianinpa]

$2750.00 is the price.

 

[joedrum]

hmmmm to much......if stator is bad.......... just to much :crying: :fiddle: :nea:

 

[brianinpa]

Again, that was my thought... :crying:, but he has another :Egyptian:

 

[mcgovern61]

Quick way to verify the mileage.....if in fact it is the original 7K miles, the tires may be original or at best changed once. If they do not look brand new or recently changed, check the tire code and find out when they were made. Also, find out if both front and back are the same make. If 7K original miles, the back tire will have more wear than the front and the front should be less than half worn. Just my 2 cents.

If the bike looks as good as it sounds (other than a potential stator) I would be surprised that he would want to part it out with that low of mileage.

Brian, don't forget in PA, all mileage must be reported on the Title. Compare the Title stated mileage at the time of registration to the PO compared to the bike today.

 

[brianinpa]

It isn't a PA bike.

The guy who has it now bought it from a guy in Maine: not sure what the conditions were where it was at during that time, but for the past several years it has been in a climate controled garage. I would be the third owner and second rider of this bike. Oh and this picture was taken before he took it apart and worked on it and cleaned it up to sell it. Since this picture all the engine cases have been polished.

He has another red one with 29k on the dial that needs tires and rear brakes but isn't as nice as this one. I know I am getting one of them... Which oneI am not sure which way the wind is going to blow me off of the fence just yet. :smilie_happy:

 

[mcgovern61]

Brian, I don't think that bike is good for you.......seems risky to me..........just because it looks real nice, I would be real careful........I might have to come up there and buy it to save you the aggravation.
(Just trying to help! :hihihi: )

 

[joedrum]

looks as good as Vs

 

[mcgovern61]

BTW, if it really is a bad stator, it is no big deal to drop the engine and replace the stator. If you wanted to, ride it this way and we could drop the engine, pop in a stator and put the engine back in less than a day. We can usually have the engine out and on the floor in about an hour and half.

 

[brianinpa]

mcgovern61 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:17 am[/url]":zjcyrabn]
Brian, I don't think that bike is good for you.......seems risky to me..........just because it looks real nice, I would be real careful........I might have to come up there and buy it to save you the aggravation.
(Just trying to help! :hihihi: )

Thanks for having my back... You notice I didn't say where it currently is at... :smilie_happy:

BTW, if it really is a bad stator, it is no big deal to drop the engine and replace the stator. If you wanted to, ride it this way and we could drop the engine, pop in a stator and put the engine back in less than a day. We can usually have the engine out and on the floor in about an hour and half.

And 45 minutes of that is spent cursing at the circlip! Thanks for the offer, and if the wind blows me that way, I may take you up on it. :good:

 

[dan filipi]

Good news is, 1200- no circlip!

 

[brianinpa]

Really... I did not know that! What keeps that all together?

 

[dan filipi]

brianinpa » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:51 am[/url]":3czba0fa]
Really... I did not know that! What keeps that all together?

I'm not exactly sure but if you think about it, making the shaft a bit longer would eliminate the clip.
Relying on a little clip like they designed it is really rather dumb, just like the rear master cylinder relies on the clip as a pedal stop.

 

[backlander]

That little spring loaded driveshaft eliminated the circlip