1981 1100 goldwing

[mikee]

hi. new member on board guys. dont really know how this works but will try. got a problem with my 81 1100 wing. runs fine for a little ,15 to 30 miles and then starts to cut out till it loses all h.p. left alone for a few hours cranks up ,only to do the same thing again. always turns over but will not start. fuel filter ok ,fuel pump,pumping,new plugs,air,drained carbs.exhast temp from front exhaust to back two,150 degrees different.help please,and thanks.

 

[joedrum]

welcome to CGW ...wow strange problem ...mignt be ignition ...coils ...balisst resister ....bad connestion broken wire in pulse generator .....maybe igniters....seems you need to check things right when the problem starts with checking spark first .....good luck

 

[dan filipi]

Problem starting after 15-30 miles could be carbs start flodding but also may not be getting enough gas. Try turning the gas cap loose when the problem starts.
If it improves the cap vent is plugged.

 

[AApple]

Welcome to the CGW Forums, mikee!!! :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

Not to prolong a tech discussion in the New Member Forum, but...are you saying the front two exhaust temps are 150 deg. different from the rear two? Sounds like an ignition issue to me...

 

[GILLT]

Welcome to the forums. :wave: :wave:
Check out what has been mentioned above. Answers can be had here
with the help of excellent and Knowledgeable people on the forums.

 

[slabghost]

Welcome aboard. Posting more than once is permitted and encouraged here.

 

[Winger 82]

Welcome from N.Western,Pa. :hi:

 

[toytender01]

Welcom from central Calif mikee. I had a similar problen last summer, found the fuel filter had collapsed on the output spigget, after several miles, but when it sat for a whilr would start and run for several miled before it would act up again, so you might just replace the filter (a couple of bucks at auto parts store) and fix the problem. still a lot of other possiabilities though.

 

[mcgovern61]

Welcome to the site from New Jersey! :clapping:

What Dan said about flooding makes sense, and if it is not a new new gas filter, change it. Did the bike sit long with no gas in the tank? Possibly fine rust in the tank clogging the intake screen.

 

[MrGeo]

Coils on the older cars would act that way, get hot or warm after a few miles driving and start to lose power, I would think to try pulling spark plug when it is running worst and check if the fire is blue or not, that should let you know if the fire is getting cooler. :wave: :wave: If you plan to keep me posted please use a sharp thumb tack, they hurt less. :thanks: :music3: Don't get burned doing this. GEO. :headscratch: :headscratch:

 

[Joep]

Two things come to mind.... first is fuel issues.. replace filter and hoses.. you could have a wrong hose on the filter and as it draws gas it is collapsing.. or the filter is silted.. and rotate the fuel cut off switch several times.. could be sticking partly closed... turn it to res ( handle up) and try the runs again..

Second is ignition... either back two (4 and 3 as you sit on bike) are not firing or they are flooded.. if not fuel then spark... switch plugs and see it they get warmer.. (bad plugs) ... the no start after shutting down does bother me and I think that is coils getting warm and flutzing out.. ( if you have a good buddy with a similar bike see if he will let you swap in his coils and see if the issue goes away.. ( cheapest test)..

these should lead you to a solution and have been mentioned as possibles.. just offering was to test at low cost.. if the bike had sat with gas in it.. you may be looking at a carb overhaul... and get the Randakks kit, has quality items that will last longer.. and search bike bandit on coil part numbers and then google the part numbers to find other year and models that use the same ones.. so you can ask for coils for each of them.. they may not have coils for a goldwing but they may have coils say for a cb900 that are the same..

Joe

 

[mikee]

ordered newused coils,?might be bad move?put them on fired right off,ran a lot longer but started missingagain. orginal bike ,mabey fuel are bad .what about,anthing that would heat up and the start to fail? need advise please. i printed fuel but meant old fuel lines collapsing.

 

[slabghost]

It's an 81. Could be a loose wire or ground getting hot or fuel line maybe filter between pump and tank collapsing. Fuel cap vent plugged.Try adding seafoam cleaner in fresh gas and leave the fuel cap loose.

 

[mikee]

gotta be some one whos had this problem. drove it started missing,parked it ,let let it set, and idle, steady miss for 4 or 5 seconds,runs good for another 10 seconds,same thing.show me the wisdom please.did old school for shorts in the dark nothing. left bank doesnt seem to change engine idle as much as right bank.

 

[slabghost]

exactly what have you tried? Aside from looking for sparks in the dark. Did you install new plugs? Did you put a good cleaner in the fuel? Did you set the valves? Did you try running it with the gas cap open? When it quit have you looked for collapsed fuel lines? Have you drained the float bowls and looked for sediment or water? Are you leaving the choke on? Have you checked the air filter box for debris? We cannot hear your bike run. We cannot feel it. We don't know the history of it or your level of experience. My motor loses power after a few minutes or miles and dies could be a lot of things.What color are the plugs or have you looked?Do you get smoke from the exhaust prior to it quitting? If so what color is it? Does the bike have coolant in it?

 

[joedrum]

yes theres a lot of things to consider here ...and the problem as of now is wide on the cause ....just not enough info to help much ....these bikes are 30yrs old plus and people wonder why they dont run right ...they actualy come fro, era when things were tough anf before govb idiots came in bigtime to screw everything up these bikes can be figure rather easy and once done usealy can last decades with a good matence ......but its up to owner to do this and forums like this ....cause mother honda wants your bike to die .....they are like all big corporations just crap in product support ....so my advice is to get serious with figuring out this bike ....a bike as old as yours probanly needs the entire ignition looked over from the plugs to the pulse generators.....fuel system too from tank to valve ...good luck im sure it can be brought back its obviously nothing major :mrgreen:

 

[dan filipi]

Wow we're on the second page and in the wrong forum. Not anymore

Your getting a lot of good advice, mikee.
What we need you to do is try these things mentioned because there is no magic cure.
You'll have to take them one by one until you've found the problem.

 

[mikee]

ok guys,theres no magic curefor sure. gone through,plugs,filters, wires, coils, spark unit,pulse generator,stil after driving 30 minutes starts to miss,also checked valves,sounds like carbs to me,are they a nightmare?called afew bike shops,nobody wants to try it,we do have ahonda shop here bit but really dont to go there.is this something your gonna need special tools ?

 

[dan filipi]

It doesn't sound like ignition to me unless you've got a coil acting up when hot.
What can happen is the coil case gets hot which expands a crack open then spark jumps to ground.
See that alot on older cars, not very often on this bike.

I think more likely a fuel delivery problem.
How does it run up until it starts missing?
If good then the carbs are fine.

Have you changed the fuel filter?
Is there rust in the gas tank possibly plugging the pickup screens at the bottom?

If your gas cap vent is plugged it can allow a vacuum to build up in the tank stopping fuel flow.

If you can get it to act up, turn the cap loose and see if it improves.

We'll stick with you til you've found it.

 

[joedrum]

yes we will :mrgreen: another thing to try is just running without the cap wit tank half full.....try putting the petcock in the reserve possition even before its there ...it dosnt sound like carbs to me but somthing before the carbs ....but yo never know ......id say start at the tank end and take the sending unit out so you can see the condition of the tank ...its under the seat and comes off rather easy ....if its rusty it needs to be cleaned regardless if it the problem....them move forward towards the carbs ...petcock ...fuel filter....fueul pump ..a lot of times if there a hose not tight enough it will slow the fuel pump to almost nothing ...then hose to carb...this has been rough on you but im sure its small .....grounds are a big deal also ans all connectors of ignition purpose ....and it could be a ballist resistor too getting to hot and causing the wires to fail that go to it ...idont know im just listing stuff for you to consider.....good luck mikee