Exhaust headers on 1100...oem or aftermarkets...??

[Gc33]

Hey all... I'm looking to get a new set of header pipes for my 1100. I've seen a few on ebay (oem used) but by the time I ship them from USA it's getting close to same price as buying a set of aftermarkets new...
So.. I was wondering if any of you have had any experience with aftermarkets headers... Ie delkevic etc. Interested in how they fit up etc...

 

[pidjones]

I had a set of what may have been MACs on the '79 1000 when I bought it. Polished great, but where 1-2" too long to fit stock mufflers to. Didn't fit the '75 motor in the '78 frame, either. Shame too, because the where gorgeous. I'd suggest correct year OEM for OEM mufflers, otherwise the SS pipes look good until they brown from heat.

 

[Gc33]

pidjones » 44 minutes ago[/url]":1g7f57qg]
I had a set of what may have been MACs on the '79 1000 when I bought it. Polished great, but where 1-2" too long to fit stock mufflers to. Didn't fit the '75 motor in the '78 frame, either. Shame too, because the where gorgeous. I'd suggest correct year OEM for OEM mufflers, otherwise the SS pipes look good until they brown from heat.

Yeah I've got stainless on my blackbird and they don't take long to discolour...

 

[chilidawg]

I find it hard to imagine where you guys are going with this or where your standards lay?

Are you just saying that everything wears out sooner or later, or are you saying that there really is no good replacement anywhere.

I just consider myself highly fortunate that I scored myself an awesome standard system for $220 off of eBay.

but even with these, the headers are browned, what else would you expect for 20,000 miles but the chrome, that you can see, is awesome.

Who studies header pipes on a boxer engine?

I dunno, maybe you guys are just on a different level than me. The guy in front of me at the chrome platers spent $3,250 on stuff that went under his '65 Barracuda, I'm sure that if he got into a severe wreck, his car would have still looked wonderful.

I just wanted some rear foot pegs worked on.

 

[Gc33]

chilidawg » 53 minutes ago[/url]":2ld6c1nc]
I find it hard to imagine where you guys are going with this or where your standards lay?

Are you just saying that everything wears out sooner or later, or are you saying that there really is no good replacement anywhere.

I just consider myself highly fortunate that I scored myself an awesome standard system for $220 off of eBay.

but even with these, the headers are browned, what else would you expect for 20,000 miles but the chrome, that you can see, is awesome.

Who studies header pipes on a boxer engine?

I dunno, maybe you guys are just on a different level than me. The guy in front of me at the chrome platers spent $3,250 on stuff that went under his '65 Barracuda, I'm sure that if he got into a severe wreck, his car would have still looked wonderful.

I just wanted some rear foot pegs worked on.

I'm going to need to replace my header pipes as the left side looks like it's been butchered to get past the side stand... I'll attach pics...
Now... You are really lucky you are in America... Coz you don't have to pay a fortune to get something shipped from around the other side of the world... So us lot in the land down under... Where our $ is worth bugger all to your dollar or the english Stirling pound. So we have to research... And if I'm gonna she'll out nearly $200 American... Part is only $40 US but shipping they want like $150...so in aussie dollars that's gonna cost me close to $300...for used... When I can get a set of delkevic for $450aus shipped to my door.. Brand spankas.. I want to know I'm getting quality... And the way the header plpes sit is important for corner clearance.. What little we already have...
Other than that mate.. I'm not really sure what your post is relevant to?

 

[Gc33]

And I'll be replacing my silencers with a set of stainless Aussie made ones made by a company called overlander equipment. At $840aus... Plus freight makes them really attractive option. They are replicas made to same specs as Honda's. At that price I would imagine they would be a very good option for you guys in the US. He also makes the 6 into 6 for the cbx 6 lads here and the quality is outstanding...
Check em out anyway...
https://dropbears.com/overlander/

 

[aussiegold]

just my 2 bobs worth. i would buy an original pair of headers from the US.
i have bought some, and the exchange rate is not so good . but , if you email the seller and ask for
a definite price for shipping, it is usually much lower than quoted on Ebay etc. try to find some from a
desert state, hopefully a little more rust free..
an alternative that i have used is , the Aussie post office freight service. you buy a product and have it sent to a US address ( supplied by Auspost. ) not cheap, but a good service.

those mufflers look awesome.

 

[Gc33]

aussiegold » Today- 1:52[/url]":13h0l01i]
just my 2 bobs worth. i would buy an original pair of headers from the US.
i have bought some, and the exchange rate is not so good . but , if you email the seller and ask for
a definite price for shipping, it is usually much lower than quoted on Ebay etc. try to find some from a
desert state, hopefully a little more rust free..
an alternative that i have used is , the Aussie post office freight service. you buy a product and have it sent to a US address ( supplied by Auspost. ) not cheap, but a good service.
those mufflers look awesome.

Yeah I think I may be doin that... No shortage of them on ebay. Parts are usually fairly well priced even with the poor exchange rate.. It's the shipping that is insane.
Mite do what you suggested.. Ask seller to confirm shipping price..
Yeah those mufflers... I've seen the quality when I was involved with cbx6 club... Exceptional quality.

 

[pidjones]

Just be sure of integrity of used OEM headers. I've only delt with the 1000s, but some I've seen had the ends that mate to the mufflers seriously eroded. I ended up getting a set from a ngw member that were in great shape. With the 1000s, either they were plain ('75 and '76 I think) and could be painted or had heat shields that looked nice and did not discolor because they were spaced away from the hot muffler. Also, the OEMs were double-wall helping to keep the outside cooler.

 

[chilidawg]

I'm going to need to replace my header pipes as the left side looks like it's been butchered to get past the side stand... I'll attach pics...
Now... You are really lucky you are in America... Coz you don't have to pay a fortune to get something shipped from around the other side of the world... So us lot in the land down under... Where our $ is worth bugger all to your dollar or the english Stirling pound. So we have to research... And if I'm gonna she'll out nearly $200 American... Part is only $40 US but shipping they want like $150...so in aussie dollars that's gonna cost me close to $300...for used... When I can get a set of delkevic for $450aus shipped to my door.. Brand spankas.. I want to know I'm getting quality... And the way the header plpes sit is important for corner clearance.. What little we already have...
Other than that mate.. I'm not really sure what your post is relevant to?

Mate! it's relevant alright.

It's relevant to whether or not you're building something to show, or something to ride!

As far as I can see in your photo, I've bought much worse, in the past, and it performed wonderfully.

I also like your 3 yellow wire plug, looking all beautiful and standard, you might want to look carefully at it, before you start thinking you have alternator problems. If you're gonna run it?

As for being "lucky" that I live in the US. No. I just had the hard won qualifications and experience required to migrate here.

21 years ago, yesterday!!

 

[Gc33]

chilidawg » Today- 8:54[/url]":36fv2edo]

I'm going to need to replace my header pipes as the left side looks like it's been butchered to get past the side stand... I'll attach pics...
Now... You are really lucky you are in America... Coz you don't have to pay a fortune to get something shipped from around the other side of the world... So us lot in the land down under... Where our $ is worth bugger all to your dollar or the english Stirling pound. So we have to research... And if I'm gonna she'll out nearly $200 American... Part is only $40 US but shipping they want like $150...so in aussie dollars that's gonna cost me close to $300...for used... When I can get a set of delkevic for $450aus shipped to my door.. Brand spankas.. I want to know I'm getting quality... And the way the header plpes sit is important for corner clearance.. What little we already have...
Other than that mate.. I'm not really sure what your post is relevant to?

Mate! it's relevant alright.

It's relevant to whether or not you're building something to show, or something to ride!

As far as I can see in your photo, I've bought much worse, in the past, and it performed wonderfully.

I also like your 3 yellow wire plug, looking all beautiful and standard, you might want to look carefully at it before you start thinking you have alternator problems. If you're gonna run it?

As for being lucky that I live in the US. No. I just had the hard won qualifications and experience required to migrate here.

21 years ago, yesterday!!

Hey chillidawg... Hang on... You are comin across a bit cranky here.. And possibly my fault.. I've use the the mate..not in a derogatory way but in a friendly way so if it's been taken the wrong way.. My apologies..
The rrason
. Simple reason I posted the topic was as to anyone had positive or negative experiences with header pipes.. Aftermarket v oem. As you could see in the photo the left hand one appears to have been altered so it runs past sidestand. If it wasn't altered I probably wouldn't have asked the question.
The bike has been sitting for 15 years.. So as for the 3 yellow wired plug... It's not of great concern at this point. I've got the whole thing stripped at this point reassembling inspecting as I go... Carb rebuild yet to do. Brake system to rebuild... Lots of things before I get to the wiring side. Rectifiers were generally a weak point on Honda's so I'm expecting a few things not right.
Again apologies if I came across abrupt... Wasn't meant to be..

 

[chilidawg]

Accepted!

If your side stand is interfering with the exhaust. Then something, somewhere is out of shape.

It could be your exhaust header, or it could be, the frame member that carries the side stand.

Both kinda doubtful, I know. But both possible.

I have a frame member that I can send you for free + shipping, if it turns out to be that.

 

[dan filipi]

My 1100 is covered right now so I can't look, but I seem to remember a "recess" built into the 1100 pipe right at the side stand pivot point....at least that's what it looks like what I'm seeing in your photo.
I could be wrong.

 

[Gc33]

chilidawg » Today- 13:31[/url]":1zv1ntgz]
Accepted!

If your side stand is interfering with the exhaust. Then something, somewhere is out of shape.

It could be your exhaust header, or it could be, the frame member that carries the side stand.

Both kinda doubtful, I know. But both possible.

I have a frame member that I can send you for free + shipping, if it turns out to be that.

All frame etc looks good... But I think the headers may be/after markets and aren't bent to same profile as orig.
Looking at others.. Ie delkevic.. Quite different in profile... So hence reason asking what experience people have had. I'm inclined to go oem if I can find a reasonable set... Just cost of shipping is astronomical... :shock: plenty of options on eBay and I've sent some queries off but no reply as yet.
The bike only has 39000km on clock.. And going by engine paint.. Other indicators its believable.
I work away and back home tomorrow arvo so goal this break is get tank repaired... Small hole due to rear brake master cylinder leak going untreated or unchecked so neighbour is going to braze or MIG it for me.. Gotta unblock the reserve line... Then all going well remove engine from frame so I can prep frame and swingarm for sand or soda blast then powder coat. Once that's done I can start putting it back together.
Guaranteed the carbs will be buggered after sitting for so long so looking for best kits.. Price not the option... Quality is.
The wing is what started my passion for bikes.. My dad took me past the local Honda dealership in in the windows was a 79 wing.. And I thought then.. I'm gonna have one of those... As well as later the cbx 6 B model... Had both. Had 76 wing when I was 17...loved it. I'll attach a pic of a photo I scanned... So this is a labour of love...

 

[Gc33]

dan filipi » 35 minutes ago[/url]":1aznumv0]
My 1100 is covered right now so I can't look, but I seem to remember a "recess" built into the 1100 pipe right at the side stand pivot point....at least that's what it looks like what I'm seeing in your photo.
I could be wrong.

OK.. I'll have a closer look at some oem ones... Thanks.

 

[Two85s]

A couple of shots of the OEM from my 1100.

as you can see their is a depression for the side stand.

 

[Winger 82]

dan filipi » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:43 pm[/url]":af83bxoa]
My 1100 is covered right now so I can't look, but I seem to remember a "recess" built into the 1100 pipe right at the side stand pivot point....at least that's what it looks like what I'm seeing in your photo.
I could be wrong.

Same here :good: :good: :good:

 

[Gc33]

Two85s » Today- 16:46[/url]":12n7edmo]
A couple of shots of the OEM from my 1100.View attachment 1 as you can see their is a depression for the side stand.

Yeah... But not as big as the one in my pic I put up earlier..
When I've looked at other header designs, the way the pipes sweep in and back is different to what is on mine..

 

[chilidawg]

These are the ones that are going on mine, they have a clear purpose made indentation in the pipe itself, not just a hole in the chrome guard.

I don't know exactly what year model they are.

 

[Gc33]

chilidawg » Today- 15:39[/url]":2twskepx]
These are the ones that are going on mine, they have a clear purpose made indentation in the pipe itself, not just a hole in the chrome guard.

I don't know exactly what year model they are.

Yeah but nowhere like what you can see on that exhaust of mine.. And that indent.. Is that more the chrome cover itself rather than pipe?
I've got my eye on a set on ebay.. But what I'm worried about is the ends.. Where they go into silencer...
Im in no hurry, this project is gonna take a while.
If you come across any send me a msg... Looking for a few bits and pieces.. One in particular is the fork air balance hose... Either hunt one down or if I can find the thread size I'll get one made up at work..