Question about 75 cams and C5 ignition

[chilidawg]

I now have the 75 cams installed, with the left rear extension that will, (I understand from C5performance) allow me to use a C5 ignition on the left head.

So here's my question?

The extension, does not appear to have a cam to it, it seems to be perfectly round.

Is there some kind of sleeve that I still need, to accomplish my goal? And if so, how does it fit in the correct position to offer an engine position reference?

 

[dan filipi]

C5 supplies all the parts to do this in their kit.

 

[chilidawg]

Hey Dan, please don't take this the wrong way dude.

But I think I #u(K!ing love you.

I've heard stories of people whacking that extension off with a just a hammer blow, and seem to also remember an exploded diagram (which I can't find right now) with a knock pin that held a sleeve in place.

 

[dan filipi]

Whacking that stem off is such a shame.

 

[joedrum]

well personally honda moving the iggy in the 1100s was just one of honda dumbest moves on the oldwing ever in my book

 

[mcgovern61]

dan filipi » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:05 pm[/url]":2myo6do1]
Whacking that stem off is such a shame.

Just as bad (in my opinion) as all of those front turn signal brackets that got their mounting tabs knocked off to install Vetter farings. :Awe:

 

[Steve83]

mcgovern61 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 2:15 pm[/url]":6kqvea7j]

dan filipi » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:05 pm[/url]":6kqvea7j]
Whacking that stem off is such a shame.

Just as bad (in my opinion) as all of those front turn signal brackets that got their mounting tabs knocked off to install Vetter farings. :Awe:

Yup - and butchered wiring!

 

[Ansimp]

Stop talking about the Rats Nest like that!! :smilie_happy:

 

[Steve83]

You know I love the Rat's Nest! :lust: I got very familiar with her! :shock:

 

[Ansimp]

Steve83 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:41 am[/url]":2n5ug85u]
You know I love the Rat's Nest! :lust: I got very familiar with her! :shock:

:thanks: :moped:

 

[brianinpa]

Hmmmm.... so if I want to install the set of 77 cams that I have, and I want to remove the engine again to remove the C5, what will I need to mount that C5 kit onto to back of the head?

 

[slabghost]

Gotta ask Paul but I'd guess you need a 1000 c5. You already have it installed so just leave it where it is and install your cams.

 

[joedrum]

one the c5 is in the most accurate place on your bike brian ..even though hard to get at ....2 you could put 77 cams in with stem on and just get 1000 iggy cover to cover it up ..3 if you want you could put point ..dyna ... c5 ... or any ignition in the 1000 cover as instant back up ignition if there ever was problem ... to me brian you sit rather nice in options and set up with 77 cams installed along with c5 in rear ... witch runs directly off the crankshaft .. hard to beat that direct hook up

 

[dan filipi]

You're not really gaining anything putting the C5 on the head unless you want it accessible to re-program it or show it off.

 

[brianinpa]

If I have the C5, single carb, and 1000 cams, I am thinking about maybe being able to reprogram in the future so ease of access is the reason.

 

[dan filipi]

Yep, that's why I moved mine from the rear to head and bought the programmer.
I bumped advance 5 degrees more across the board and I actually felt a loss of power so
my thinking now is Power Arc did a fine job on the curves just as they are.
Of course your setup is different than mine so who knows what could happen.

 

[joedrum]

yes ... it is nice to have that ... the user friendly part is huge.....

 

[brianinpa]

dan filipi » Mon Aug 18, 2014 8:05 am[/url]":c20flbd0]
Yep, that's why I moved mine from the rear to head and bought the programmer.
I bumped advance 5 degrees more across the board and I actually felt a loss of power so
my thinking now is Power Arc did a fine job on the curves just as they are.
Of course your setup is different than mine so who knows what could happen.

The more I play around with my switch the more I like the ability to change the settings. I crab a different switch setting for a hill or when I had the trailer on, and there is a definite difference. Next weekend, I hope to put it to longer test with a trip pulling the trailer to Vermont to pick up another Vetter Fairing and all of my camping gear.

Being able to program the ignition may be nice, but after reading this though maybe the preprogrammed settings are enough.

 

[dan filipi]

I think the 3 full sparks are the big magic in the C5 changing the burn characteristics so different that giving it more advance actually lowers performance.
I'm sure Paul and Gary could enlighten us more on this.

 

[joedrum]

yes i am fixing to switch to stock advance as i got good background on the custom advance paul dial in in at meet and greet now