Replacing wheel bearings - rear 83

[Pony Ruiz]

I've had these wheel bearings now for months. Thought I would just pop them in.

What could be so hard about that? Well......not having done it before my learning curve got the better of me.

these are for 83 rims on my project bike. I started with the rear. that is as far as I got.

I tapped them in and then tried using all thread and some washers to try and get them in straight.

Well I ended up pounding them in with a dead blow hammer. Then realized the side with the rotor needed to go in further. I used the all thread method. But I tightened them too tight against the sleeve ( I did remember to put that in ) and now they don't spin.

I didn't feel them before I put them in but I reckon they didn't fell grainy. The rotor side feels a bit grainy compared to the other side now too - or it may be my imagination. I did hit it...and no doubt unevenly. They don't appear to be loose w/any movement though.

So how to I free them up a bit? And what is the proper procedure (should have found this out first)to install them?

In hindsight I should have slowed down....did some reading/investigation then proceeded. I don't follow my own advice sometimes. Doh!

I still need to do the front. GRrrrrrr!

 

[dan filipi]

To my knowledge there's no way to get a bearing back rolling smooth.
I think you must have hit the center race of the bearing when hitting them in, should only hit the outer.

Wait and see what the others say but I think that bearing is toast.

 

[Pony Ruiz]

Wait and see what the others say but I think that bearing is toast.

well, as usual I tried to hurry up a task I had never done before and without the proper tools. I really didn't want to do this over but I guess I am going to have to now.. Frustration with a capital F.

I tried hitting it in with a pc. of pvc pipe. not quite big enough for the outer race. The washer I used with the allthread wasn't quite big enough either. I guess with predictable results. nobody but me to blame for that. That worked good, but I need to grind down a bigger washer to fit next time.

how to get them out now? I had a shop do it last time they charged me $28 for the front and rear. for 15 min. work.... that can get expensive...

I read somewhere to use a pc. of allthread with a cut in the end put it in the bearing hole and drive a screwdriver or somesuch in to spread it then somehow extract the bearing -

:head bang: :head bang: :head bang:

 

[slabghost]

tap in the outer races with a small hammer and drift pin. then use a pipe or other soild punch on the centers. One tapwith a little force from each side. See if that frees up the bearings.

 

[Pony Ruiz]

I'll give that a try.

if that ain't it, what is the method to get them out (without damaging anything !)?


just a n00b trying to get my post count up.....not~!

thanks

 

[joedrum]

well pony you realy pounded your way into trouble ...im sure if it went in as you said its coming out rather hard also....28$ is sounding cheap now.....obviously you dont have to proprer tools ...id say have the shop put them in :crying: :mrgreenersonaly ive never done it yet so im not much help

 

[slabghost]

My books are not very helpful here. I see no way to get the bearings out undamaged. You should be able to remove them without damaging the wheel though. Use a flat ended punch or bar from the right side. Push the spacer aside and tap the left inner bearing race. Work your way around and hit opposite sides. For instance. Push the spacer to your left then tap. Push the spacer to your right then tap. Work your way clockwise as well as left and right and you should get it out.
Maybe your shop guy can salvage the job for the installation cost? Let us know how it goes.

 

[Bloodbeard]

I'll give that a try.

if that ain't it, what is the method to get them out (without damaging anything !)?


just a n00b trying to get my post count up.....not~!

thanks

Autozone has a blind bearing puller for loan. You have to put like 150 bucks down to borrow it and you get it back when you return it. Made getting the bearings in and out much easier

 

[Pony Ruiz]

thanks for the tips guys.

all of the above are sounding good. You know what they say: admitting you made a mistake is part of the solution or some crap like that Doh! and Doh! This is for my naked project bike so at least I am not prevented from riding. I like my 83 I :mrgreen:

I might just have the shop do it and put on some new tires i don't have yet(which ones)
I might try the punch method...
I like borrowing the tool too. BB how did it help you getting them back in?

 

[Bloodbeard]

Scratch that i used a big socket putting it back in working around the outer race.
My memory is based on sun positioning and wind speed.

 

[Pony Ruiz]

Got it thanks.

I will let you alll know how it shakes out(i wish)

 

[Bloodbeard]

it looks like this instead of using the slide hammer i locked in the correct size into the inner race then used my long bolt to just pound it out from the other side.

 

[Pony Ruiz]

cool.

thanks for the pic. I needed that!

So you just put in one of the adj. dodads and then hit it with a long bolt from the other side and it came out lickety split eh...

i might give that a go.

getting them back in I might be asking for more advice....as i often do....

off to work.....

 

[Bloodbeard]

Yep they adjust out and grip the inside of the inner race. You can buy just the adapter you need I've been meaning to do so. to put them back in i took the biggest socket i had and tapped it in bit by bit. You could go buy a socket the size of the outer race to make it easier. I wound up moving the socket around making sure not to hit the inner race.

 

[stratocat]

Harbor Freight has a bearing puller set for $40.00 :builder:

 

[Pony Ruiz]

Got me the autozone "free" puller. $175 if I dont bring it back. I'm bringing it back!

I hope I don't need to get behind the inner race cause it is tight up against the sleeve..

I will be back...

 

[Pony Ruiz]

removed the larger one with the autozone puller.

that was a workout. first adjusting the puller was tough in itself - very tight for some reason - not cross threaded either....

then using the puller/slide - took quite a few slams but finally, slowly it came out.

I think I'll leave the smaller one in there it went in/seems fine.

Could I use the old/toasty bearing to pound in the new one? I am going to use the washer/allthread method - grinding down the washer to fit the outer race. I will go slower this time....

I would not be worried about these coming out...

i got another one coming...all balls. it has the blue protector on both sides. I am assuming/was told no need to grease these...

thanks for the help!

 

[danf]

Harbor Freight has a bearing puller set for $40.00 :builder:

Well Stratocat hit it on the nose....for $40 bones you can remove those bearings like a pro...I would suggest checking out youtube, they have some great bearing removal video's there..Glad you got it Pony...

 

[dan filipi]

Yes you can use the old bearing to tap it in but there is some risk of bumping the inner race.
Safer to use a socket on the outer race only.

 

[Pony Ruiz]

Safer to use a socket on the outer race only.

that thought did cross my mind.