Heading out in the morning to the farm in northeast Arkansas (in a cage) :Awe: but its for a good cause, cause my mamie said for me to get my butt up there. :shock: :smilie_happy: Anyways, I' going over to Piggott, Ar. where they make and install the seatcovers that littlebeaver just got for his ride to check them out. I'm carrying Atila's seat with me for a new cover. The 84 seat is shaped different than the 85 and 86. Didn't know that till I had them side by side. The 84 is higher backed front and rear and the saddle is actualy narrower where your thighs fit. Think it might be more comfortable for those of us with circulation problems.