Servicing final drive, lithium grease or moly paste?

[paddy.shadow]

Paddy.. i dont professs to be anything more than a person who abides by what the engineers reccomend that were capable of building such a fine machine as the Goldwing.. I too mean not to offend.. but i understand that manufactuer specifications and the use of them are important... And through reading tons of posts on forums such as this. Has proved to me, that walking around a dollar just to save a dime just creates another problem. been there, done that... And personaly, i could have prevented it.... My only intent is to offer help to fellow classic Goldwing owners with info that is going to help them maintain thier goldwings through the use of information set forth in publications from Mother Honda... for example, the 500 page tech manual... Respecfully, Knowbuddy :salute:

I have the book....most of us are on tight budgets...I am no chemist, just trying to save a couple...and the HF (in my case) will last longer than the rear tire... :thanks:

 

[danf]

I was looking at the Honda Moly tube I have and it says 60% moly, I'm willing to bet the other 40% is lithium or multi purpose grease mixed ..does that sound right to you guy's?

 

[dan filipi]

Paddy.. i dont professs to be anything more than a person who abides by what the engineers reccomend that were capable of building such a fine machine as the Goldwing.. I too mean not to offend.. but i understand that manufactuer specifications and the use of them are important... And through reading tons of posts on forums such as this. Has proved to me, that walking around a dollar just to save a dime just creates another problem. been there, done that... And personaly, i could have prevented it.... My only intent is to offer help to fellow classic Goldwing owners with info that is going to help them maintain thier goldwings through the use of information set forth in publications from Mother Honda... for example, the 500 page tech manual... Respecfully, Knowbuddy :salute:

Please share the information by posting a copy of that page here since to my knowledge none of the other service manuals specify using Moly 60 paste, not even the 80-83 Honda Service Manual.

 

[danf]

Paddy.. i dont professs to be anything more than a person who abides by what the engineers reccomend that were capable of building such a fine machine as the Goldwing.. I too mean not to offend.. but i understand that manufactuer specifications and the use of them are important... And through reading tons of posts on forums such as this. Has proved to me, that walking around a dollar just to save a dime just creates another problem. been there, done that... And personaly, i could have prevented it.... My only intent is to offer help to fellow classic Goldwing owners with info that is going to help them maintain thier goldwings through the use of information set forth in publications from Mother Honda... for example, the 500 page tech manual... Respecfully, Knowbuddy :salute:

Please share the information by posting a copy of that page here since to my knowledge none of the other service manuals specify using Moly 60 paste, not even the 80-83 Honda Service Manual.

Dan it says it in the manual you posted Lithium plus [mos2] is moly... :shock:

 

[dan filipi]

Yes mos2 is moly but is Honda Moly 60 required?

I ask because every time I pull the final drive it looks dry with none of it on the teeth as if it evaporated.

Here's a shot of it a couple days ago when I pulled it to change the wheel.
There is some grease that got on the ends because I slid the drive back on to look at play but the entire surface was dry.

 

[danf]

I never had a issue like that using multi purpose grease on my Nomad, it wasn't until I read everyone saying to use Moly 60 on the rear in splines and gear shaft on the Honda, I thought it was something everyone did...you have me wondering now, that's wild how dry that looks.. I am so guilty of putting in too much for sure..I'm glad you showed the photo, thanks Wow I will re consider now

 

[mcgovern61]

I wish I had taken a photo when I had my rear off last November, but using the #2 grease, the splines were still greased good and I didn't need to add any. I just wiped out the old grease and put in new. There was about 7k miles on that grease.

 

[danf]

I wish I had taken a photo when I had my rear off last November, but using the #2 grease, the splines were still greased good and I didn't need to add any. I just wiped out the old grease and put in new. There was about 7k miles on that grease.

you can bet I will change soon then..thank you guys..I'm glad I learned this now.. :headscratch:

 

[dan filipi]

The #2 Gerry?

Which grease are you referring to?

 

[mcgovern61]

The #2 Gerry?

Which grease are you referring to?

The lithium based multipurpose NLGI #2

 

[danf]

come to think of it my Yamaha XS1100 I used multi purpose grease on and never had any kinda loss or issue or dryness like that..there was always grease in the splines when I removed the wheel..

 

[dan filipi]

I went ahead and put mine together with Honda Moly 60 because I had enough left and I'm going to pull the rear wheel in a couple thousand miles to see what it looks like.

I applied it with a small brush because from what I've gathered on various Honda and BMW forums this this seems to be the "correct" way to do it.
I just don't know. It seems like the only way to know for sure is for me to do this experiment to see for myself which is the best stuff to use.

I also have a video of the Moly which seemed to have liquefied leaving the splines and getting all over the tire. I'll post that up also.

 

[danf]

I just did mine also about 1000 miles ago..so I to will watch and see too...Now what kind of tire was that you had on your bike that split like that, I hope it wasn't a dunlop 404...like I have..

 

[dan filipi]

...Now what kind of tire was that you had on your bike that split like that, I hope it wasn't a dunlop 404...like I have..

It's a Dunlop E2

 

[dan filipi]

 

[vmeyer]

Uh... I have a question... What is lubed by the grease zerk just ahead of the final drive on the tube? And should I be using the Moly grease there too?

 

[danf]

Uh... I have a question... What is lubed by the grease zerk just ahead of the final drive on the tube? And should I be using the Moly grease there too?

that grease in there when I removed the final gear drive looked just like moly paste to me so that's what I used in there.....

 

[mcgovern61]

Uh... I have a question... What is lubed by the grease zerk just ahead of the final drive on the tube? And should I be using the Moly grease there too?

That is the spline at the end of the shaft. Which ever grease you are using, use it there too.

 

[joedrum]

it seems to just shoot into the cavity from the greese zerk

 

[jdegase]

when I read the service manual I interpreted it to mean moly 60 paste or equivalent. so for me the equivalent was a better choice.
I also packed this gease into my small squirt gun for the zerk on the final drive.
think the actual brand I bought was valvoline lithium based with moly additive.
4.50 a large tube.

one comment.... the full synthetic gear grease in the final drive seems to run much cooler than the old 80-90.
it seems much thinner at room temp, and almost more slippery less sticky. hope this helps keep the heat down in the final drive.
maybe a synthetic grease for the splines would be a good thing.

technology has changed since these old bikes were built, and maybe the manuals for newer bikes would have a different recommended grease.