C5 ignition-You got to experience it

[mcgovern61]

C5Performance » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:22 am[/url]":2ehaikno]

mcgovern61 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:19 am[/url]":2ehaikno]
Still waiting on any report from C5 installations about fuel mileage usage. opcorn:

Everyone rides their bike like a racer now, and can't give accurate readings :rtfm:

:smilie_happy:

:smilie_happy:

 

[mcgovern61]

C5Performance » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:21 am[/url]":1l7fr3t8]
Second, last night Wilcoy contacted me about a question an NGW member had. Our product page had been moved and a previous link to it was not working.

Thank you Wes and Dan both for telling me!
After I made a direct reply stating our main webpage was still the same, but i am not allowed to post our information on NGW, they removed my link and replaced it with dashes "-----------" so people could not find our web address.

If you take a look at my post that was a few before yours on that thread, I was able to post your link without it being changed. Hopefully, some of their Members will be able to take advantage accordingly.

The other advantage to the internet is anyone can search for "C5 ignitions" and the search engines pop it up as the first item!

 

[C5Performance]

Thanks for your support. I feel better after yelling at Dan for a few minutes on the phone.

You guys have all been so great to meet and share ideas with. Insane how different two "forums" can be.

Wilcoy might be the best guy to finally give us mileage statements, since he has yet to swap carbs.

 

[82a]

lotsa this going on here

We think outside the box on many things here as there are many ways to get the job done and keep these old girls on the road.

open vs closed or worse, fixed mindset

 

[ekvh]

Let it roll off your back. Most here are members there too. If your product is good, it'll get to the top. Maybe there are more skeptics there, but they have all been around quite a while, and seen lots of empty promises come and go.

 

[dan filipi]

ekvh » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:38 pm[/url]":godhku4m]
Let it roll off your back. Most here are members there too. If your product is good, it'll get to the top. Maybe there are more skeptics there, but they have all been around quite a while, and seen lots of empty promises come and go.

Agreed.
Though I can't think of any new ignition that's come along.

Randall posted about a cool distributor, that's the only one I know of but that one will never come to market as he say's the cost it too high.

 

[Neil]

wilcoy02 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:16 pm[/url]":3tghz8k9]
It is all put together now. 35 mile ride today.

WOW WOW WOW

Such power. It runs like an engine should and the sound-WOW One can not put in writing the feeling of a great running engine. One must experience it on something they are familiar with.

I was running about 45 mph and twisted the throttle wide open 90mph in about 2 seconds. The put put feeling is now gone.

Well worth all the trouble of doing this!!!!!!
Iwas expecting a one day to do it all--HA HA- 15 days and now it is complete.


If anyone wants to see this in person just pm me and let me know when and where-Then I can put a face with another goldwinger.

What I have changed the font color on .... really? Not sure how to take this new ignition with that kind of statement.

 

[dan filipi]

Neil » Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:14 pm[/url]":11bpsa1y]

wilcoy02 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:16 pm[/url]":11bpsa1y]
It is all put together now. 35 mile ride today.

WOW WOW WOW

Such power. It runs like an engine should and the sound-WOW One can not put in writing the feeling of a great running engine. One must experience it on something they are familiar with.

I was running about 45 mph and twisted the throttle wide open 90mph in about 2 seconds. The put put feeling is now gone.

Well worth all the trouble of doing this!!!!!!
Iwas expecting a one day to do it all--HA HA- 15 days and now it is complete.


If anyone wants to see this in person just pm me and let me know when and where-Then I can put a face with another goldwinger.

What I have changed the font color on .... really? Not sure how to take this new ignition with that kind of statement.

I would take it as meaning it has much better performance otherwise he wouldn't have mentioned it.

 

[joedrum]

im not gary or paul ...but I didnt have to be to see what the c5 was and its potential to oldwings ...this was before the 1100 kit ....paul dan and me all collaborated what info we all had to ... mine and dan about 100s and the forum problems we have been around for yrs and pauls info and im sure garys ...and the 1100 kit became reality .....best points from all to make a great never before ignition for 1100s ....let alone the 1000s package ....it don't get any better than that ....that's how big this forum is .....I wont talk about how others pay to play goes....im just happy im involved here as home base and nothing to be ashamed of or have to look up too .....to me this was so easy to see it baffles me how some don't see it at all ....oh well just plain funny to me...like dyna is even in the game ..... :hihihi:

 

[Neil]

Don't get me wrong about the C5 ignition. Anything that replaces 30 yr old tech is going to give better performance and with parts getting scarce unless you want to replace 30 yr old coils with 30 yr old coils.
I have a hard time with statements like going from 45 to 90 in 2 seconds .... a bit too much excitement in that statement, not believable, and not doing the C5 ignition any favors with some of us old time gold wing owners.
I want to hear some decent results like this. Without the new ignition this is how my bike ran and now with it runs this way. Just telling me you can't see why someone can't see it doesn't make it true, only means you are impressed with it and that is good for you.

I have an 1100. Pistol Pete rebuilt carbs. Kept in sync. Clean gas tank. New tires. All cables working correct. All electrical working like new. Coils look good but may have cracks. Plug wires replaced this year. Starts without choke even on cold days and quickly reaches temp and idles at a steady 1000 rpm. Good power through every gear and if you get on it feel like you are about to come off the back. No loss of power through any gear. Master cylinders rebuilt and work like new. Calipers rebuilt and work like new with new brake pads. My mpg is real close to 42. Air cleaner replaced last month.
I tear the bike down every winter for a good through cleaning and frame inspection, replace bolts, washers, nuts as necessary.
That's how well I know my bike. I know how it runs in every gear, road, wind, rain, with or without a passenger and can document it.

That's what I want to see for a before and after, some documentation. Same as any new device coming into the market.

An old quote comes to mind here "show me the money".

 

[mcgovern61]

Neil, I agree that a systematic approach is much better than seat of the pants opinions (even if they are fun to watch and listen to!). I did personally see the difference in Joe's bike and watched as some of the power curve adjustments were played with. It was impressive to see and hear. Each of the bikes on this forum that have the C5 have their Owners singing with joy. But again, I agree that it will take a systematic approach and comparison to reach the masses.

In the meantime, those that have invested in the C5 seem to be really enjoying their investment! :thank_you:

 

[joedrum]

well that's very narrow minded neil ....wes just spent 15 days putting this in ...I don't want him checking a stop watch going from 45-to- 90 mph on the road when he suppose to be paying attension to riding a bike especially under those circumstances....its just to dangerous ...people want to know what he thinks about c5 iggy without endangering himself neil come on ...you do what appropriate for the situation....to be discounting that is like I said narrow minded... we all know what he means ..he has yrs of experience on his bike ... its dosnt get discounted here over something stupid like this post of yours ... wheres the dyna reports ...wheres randakks reports where anyone reports ... just a strait discount to someone who has a c5 ... the dynos and stuff of the nothing to do with riding a bike numbers ...actually means nothing here ...just the opposite

 

[dan filipi]

A lot of the capabilities aren't fully documented yet but if you call Paul he will explain in detail what they are.
If you need his cell number send me a PM.
I don't want to post it in the open forum for bots and crawlers to get hold of.

 

[Neil]

well that's very narrow minded neil ....wes just spent 15 days putting this in ...I don't want him checking a stop watch going from 45-to- 90 mph on the road when he suppose to be paying attension to riding a bike especially under those circumstances....its just to dangerous ...people want to know what he thinks about c5 iggy without endangering himself neil come on ...you do what appropriate for the situation....to be discounting that is like I said narrow minded... we all know what he means ..he has yrs of experience on his bike ... its dosnt get discounted here over something stupid like this post of yours ... wheres the dyna reports ...wheres randakks reports where anyone reports ... just a strait discount to someone who has a c5 ... the dynos and stuff of the nothing to do with riding a bike numbers ...actually means nothing here ...just the opposite

Exactly what I expected .... thanks for not disappointing me!

 

[Neil]

dan filipi » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:47 pm[/url]":37r4n82s]
A lot of the capabilities aren't fully documented yet but if you call Paul he will explain in detail what they are.
If you need his cell number send me a PM.
I don't want to post it in the open forum for bots and crawlers to get hold of.

Thanks Dan, that's good information and will help me with my decision. I'll call as soon as I can and discuss it with Paul.

 

[dan filipi]

In the meantime, have a look at what we have in the gallery gallery/album.php?album_id=1997
Lots of pictures and the 4 pre-programmed curves are in there.
Looking these over will help understand what Paul is talking about on the phone.

 

[moreorless]

Hoooo doggie, dems ain't cheap iggies!

 

[slabghost]

moreorless » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:15 pm[/url]":2mxdg1lt]
Hoooo doggie, dems ain't cheap iggies!

Is the best available ever a cheap option? After seeing this first hand in action there's no doubt in my mind I will own several. I'm saving my change already. :mrgreen:

 

[Ansimp]

I want to make the Rats Nest available for a true comparison between stock and new c5 ignition. As most of you are aware the Rats Nest is an original 28k mile 81 GW with an additional 5k of hard storming around the south west ( undocumented due to speedo failure). The engine is very sweet and we are running a second hand carby rack from Alex's 80 that were just bolted on and never synced.( they run great, maybe a little rich as no choke on start in CA summer). I think to do the mileage comparison it needs constant speed/revs for 2 tanks of fuel for highway and a similar amount for spirited twisty riding on the same roads for each different test. Then an upgrade with a c5 and do it all over again. Unfortunately the Rats Nest is still in LA and I haven't received import permission into Oz yet ( I need to fill out the paperwork and pay the money) and the shipping company wanted to put her in a container next week ( just got the call today) . So I wont have the Rats Nest or a new C5 ignition to test for quite some time

 

[C5Performance]

Neil » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:18 pm[/url]":16k9sofm]
Don't get me wrong about the C5 ignition.
I have a hard time with statements like going from 45 to 90 in 2 seconds .... a bit too much excitement in that statement, not believable, and not doing the C5 ignition any favors with some of us old time gold wing owners.
I want to hear some decent results like this. Without the new ignition this is how my bike ran and now with it runs this way. Just telling me you can't see why someone can't see it doesn't make it true, only means you are impressed with it and that is good for you.

That's what I want to see for a before and after, some documentation. Same as any new device coming into the market.

An old quote comes to mind here "show me the money".

I usually would agree with you but it seems no matter what we do, someone cries.
We have run a car, and about five cycles on the dyno (not counting the dozens that PowerArc ran previous to me being here).

We have seen a minimum of 8% and a maximum of 27% increase in either torque or horsepower, with improvements in "rpm versus time" of about one second on all dyno runs. Not to bring up the NGW guys again, but i was told our results were not believable.

A side note: A stock CB175 has more hp per engine cc than an Corvette.

That very day i removed ALL dyno results from our company website. I'm not playing that game. If you want results, buy one like everyone else. Did anyone demand a dyno result before purchasing your current ignition or carb rebuild kit? SERIOUSLY??

We have a page full of testimonials here
https://www.c5ignitions.com/testimonials.html

If you have any questions my phone is almost always on, and I'll gladly answer ANY questions you have.

As for Wilcoys enthusiasm, I was flattered. You and I both know a GL cant go from 45 to 90 in two seconds. It would take at least 3, right? But he busted his butt to get that darn thing installed. I'm meeting him near Indy next week to buy him lunch for his efforts.