I know it's strange to ask a question about a non-Goldwing at a Goldwing site but here it goes. I have been looking for a second Wing that I can work on. My 81 is running perfect and I would like to find an 83-85 to fix up over the next year. I missed a couple of good finds earlier this spring and right now there is nothing but good running condition (expensive) bikes in my area. No problem I'm patient. There are however quite a few Yamaha Venture Royale's in the 83 to 85 year range that people are virturally giving away. These bikes look good cosmetically and most say they are good runners however they are at least half the price of a similar year GW. I did read about a second gear problem that these bikes developed so I' wonder if that is the reason they are discounted or are they just not as popular as a GW? The most recent is an 1985 with 65000 Km and the guy is asking $1000. there's not a mark on it and all it needs is a "tune up". Don't know if I want to play with something other then a Wing but it sure is tempting. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks.