Age related maintenance

julimike54 · Feb 11, 2015

After viewing post on timing belt age change out, and having the final drive boot & seal replaced on mine (it was cracked, torn, etc.) I was wondering what other 'age related items might need attention, besides fluids & tires. I guess I've never thought of Goldie being 'old', it acts like it did when new. I've been treating as miles come along or if I notice something it gets changed.
My real question is (in ya'lls experience) are there other items that, when at some age, should be changed not dependent on miles. Besides the timing belts I'm also changing Rad. hoses, probably original
Thanks for the input
Mike

joedrum · Feb 11, 2015

not really in my view

dan filipi · Feb 11, 2015

Cables are a good idea to replace, or at least have spare with you on any long trip.

Flush the brake fluid real good. The fluid get's pretty gunky with age and can clog the master cylinder ports.

Rubber gets brittle with age. I'd replace the rubber brake lines with new or better yet, with stainless hoses for some better brake 'feel'.

Same with the fork oil, drain and refill.

Omega Man · Feb 11, 2015

What about the stator wires? We still recommending the conversion that removes the OEM plug? I'm a little confused after all that stuff in that thread that made it sound like the 1200 stator is going to fail anyway because of heat. I haven't heard a single word on the subject since.

I know that plug was wasted on my 1100 and I just got lucky I caught it in time before it shorted out the wires.

:headscratch:

~O~

Ansimp · Feb 11, 2015

I am a firm believer in the stator plugs on the GL1100s as it makes it easier for me to test accurately, I do recommend that you replace any 20+ year old plug that is showing signs of fatigue. I hate taped up/ sealed joints unless I have done them as I always have to cut them apart to inspect them when there is a problem

slabghost · Feb 11, 2015

I think that about covers it as long as there is no sign of rust. Look over the frame once in a while to catch the rust before it get's too bad.

backyardtrouble · Feb 12, 2015

I have found that most people want take the time to do some of the things on these older goldwings that really need it, and these can help save your motor down the road. If your working on your bike during the winter, or if you just got your bike, these are some of the first things that i do to them. Replace your Shifter seal, it don't take a lot of time or money. Also replace the front seal and gaskets, this will help with that mixing water and oil that has some wondering what is going on. Clean out your overflow tank (reserve water tank) and replace that tube in it, cost about 6 -9 dollars. Most of these tubes are dry rotted or cracked around the collar where it goes into the tank. Plus the other things these guys have listed that suit your needs. Have a good day... :moped:

julimike54 · Feb 12, 2015

Funny you mention shifter seal...last night while laying on ground fiddling with timing belt I noticed oil around shift shaft. In searching through info I couldn't find info about that part, guess I didn't know what to look under (ie trans vs eng vs ?)
Any help identifying where it's covered in shop manual, part number, etc would be helpful

brianinpa · Feb 12, 2015

[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140900#p140900:3s25t9p4 said:
julimike54 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:46 am[/url]":3s25t9p4]
Funny you mention shifter seal...last night while laying on ground fiddling with timing belt I noticed oil around shift shaft. In searching through info I couldn't find info about that part, guess I didn't know what to look under (ie trans vs eng vs ?)
Any help identifying where it's covered in shop manual, part number, etc would be helpful

That trciky bastard is item # 38 on the cylinder block figure. Nice place to put it if you ask me. Took me a long, long time to find it! :head bang:

Anyway, Western Honda has it:

038
OIL SEAL (14X28X7)
91206-286-013
$1.89

mcgovern61 · Feb 12, 2015

Anyway, Western Honda has it:

BTW, I have been ordering all of my OEM stuff from Western Honda and they are great!

brianinpa · Feb 12, 2015

[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140902#p140902:3hnuwghe said:
mcgovern61 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:51 am[/url]":3hnuwghe]

Anyway, Western Honda has it:

Click to expand...

BTW, I have been ordering all of my OEM stuff from Western Honda and they are great!

I have become really good friends with them over the years. Hard to believe with them on the West coast and me on the East coast...

bronko37 · Feb 12, 2015

[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140867#p140867:17p3lqxm said:
dan filipi » Wed Feb 11, 2015 5:26 pm[/url]":17p3lqxm]
Cables are a good idea to replace, or at least have spare with you on any long trip.

Flush the brake fluid real good. The fluid get's pretty gunky with age and can clog the master cylinder ports.

Rubber gets brittle with age. I'd replace the rubber brake lines with new or better yet, with stainless hoses for some better brake 'feel'.

Same with the fork oil, drain and refill.

Well seems like you answered my next question as well Dan. I pulled the calipers off my 84 and took em apart. There was some sludge in there bad. Was going to ask if I should spend the $$$ on getting stainless lines or just try and clean the lines I have. I can get all new lines and a new line for the clutch as well for about $50 a line. Sounds like I should go ahead and do that huh? As well as rebuild both master cylinders and probably the slave as well.

dan filipi · Feb 12, 2015

Well I really like the improved feel of the SS brake lines I got but then again they replaced the old rubber hoses on it so I can't honestly say for sure if the better feel would have been felt with new rubber hoses too. Old rubber hoses can expand under pressure, new might also?

Unless you want to do it now and be done with it, I'd hold off on rebuilding the masters until there's a problem.

bronko37 · Feb 12, 2015

[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140905#p140905:11urcq7p said:
dan filipi » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:13 pm[/url]":11urcq7p]
Well I really like the improved feel of the SS brake lines I got but then again they replaced the old rubber hoses on it so I can't honestly say for sure if the better feel would have been felt with new rubber hoses too. Old rubber hoses can expand under pressure, new might also?

Unless you want to do it now and be done with it, I'd hold off on rebuilding the masters until there's a problem.

Well, the brakes are soft and the clutch returns real slow so I think Ima just do it now. Especially after my findings in the calipers themselves. God knows how old that fluid was but it was more like pudding than brake fluid. Hopefully all the parts are fine and it just needs a good cleaning like the brakes did.

AApple · Feb 12, 2015

Two words....READ THIS!! :BigGrin:

brianinpa · Feb 12, 2015

[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140907#p140907:oyq4lgwt said:
AApple » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:43 pm[/url]"yq4lgwt]
Two words....READ THIS!! :BigGrin:

Thanks! I've been looking for that thread but could not remember where it was at... Now it is bookmarked so I know right where it is at :mrgreen:

julimike54 · Feb 12, 2015

[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140901#p140901:39d9672o said:
brianinpa » Today, 8:01 am[/url]":39d9672o]

[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140900#p140900:39d9672o said:

julimike54 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:46 am[/url]":39d9672o]
Funny you mention shifter seal...last night while laying on ground fiddling with timing belt I noticed oil around shift shaft. In searching through info I couldn't find info about that part, guess I didn't know what to look under (ie trans vs eng vs ?)
Any help identifying where it's covered in shop manual, part number, etc would be helpful

Click to expand...

That trciky bastard is item # 38 on the cylinder block figure. Nice place to put it if you ask me. Took me a long, long time to find it! :head bang:

Anyway, Western Honda has it:

038
OIL SEAL (14X28X7)
91206-286-013
$1.89

Thanks for the vendor info & insight, it was late last night & I gave up, I suppose Honda sevice manual will have in same location

julimike54 · Feb 12, 2015

[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140907#p140907:2mjgjwp7 said:
AApple » Today, 11:43 am[/url]":2mjgjwp7]
Two words....READ THIS!! :BigGrin:

Bid Thanks!! Ive been looking for something like this

brianinpa · Feb 12, 2015

[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140922#p140922:1ak1nhx8 said:
julimike54 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 2:20 pm[/url]":1ak1nhx8]

[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140901#p140901:1ak1nhx8 said:

brianinpa » Today, 8:01 am[/url]":1ak1nhx8]

[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140900#p140900:1ak1nhx8 said:

julimike54 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 8:46 am[/url]":1ak1nhx8]
Funny you mention shifter seal...last night while laying on ground fiddling with timing belt I noticed oil around shift shaft. In searching through info I couldn't find info about that part, guess I didn't know what to look under (ie trans vs eng vs ?)
Any help identifying where it's covered in shop manual, part number, etc would be helpful

Click to expand...

That trciky bastard is item # 38 on the cylinder block figure. Nice place to put it if you ask me. Took me a long, long time to find it! :head bang:

Anyway, Western Honda has it:

038
OIL SEAL (14X28X7)
91206-286-013
$1.89

Click to expand...

Thanks for the vendor info & insight, it was late last night & I gave up, I suppose Honda sevice manual will have in same location

I think so because every parts diagram I have seen looks about the same.

julimike54 · Feb 12, 2015

[url=https://classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=140905#p140905:bhiusyb3 said:
dan filipi » Today, 11:13 am[/url]":bhiusyb3]
Well I really like the improved feel of the SS brake lines I got but then again they replaced the old rubber hoses on it so I can't honestly say for sure if the better feel would have been felt with new rubber hoses too. Old rubber hoses can expand under pressure, new might also?

Unless you want to do it now and be done with it, I'd hold off on rebuilding the masters until there's a problem.

Is there a particular vendor you used for lines?

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