darksiding argument

[Omega Man]

LOL this is all so funny. Does anyone here know how many threads just like this are floating around the interwebz? There whole websites devoted to this subject alone...like:

https://www.mcdarksiders.forumotion.com
https://gl1800riders.com/forums/forumdis ... ide-Riders.

:shock:

~O~

 

[brianinpa]

O-man you are just scratching the surface. One of the members here and on Steve's forum did a LOT of research on the subject. Brian put a lot of work into his research. Read all about it here:

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forum...ferences-between-car-motorcycle-rim-tire.html

1,000's of threads out there just like this one.

 

[dan filipi]

brianinpa » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:35 pm[/url]":2w7cmaub]
O-man you are just scratching the surface. One of the members here and on Steve's forum did a LOT of research on the subject. Brian put a lot of work into his research. Read all about it here:

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forum...ferences-between-car-motorcycle-rim-tire.html

1,000's of threads out there just like this one.

Hopefully this will be the last one here :roll:

 

[Ansimp]

+1

 

[brianinpa]

dan filipi » Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:42 pm[/url]":188zoim2]

brianinpa » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:35 pm[/url]":188zoim2]
O-man you are just scratching the surface. One of the members here and on Steve's forum did a LOT of research on the subject. Brian put a lot of work into his research. Read all about it here:

https://www.goldwingfacts.com/forum...ferences-between-car-motorcycle-rim-tire.html

1,000's of threads out there just like this one.

Hopefully this will be the last one here :roll:

You did notice I am not the one that started this thread. The OP was just asking for the Pros and Cons but never came back to the thread after it was started. Right or wrong, there are two sides to this debate and I was just voicing one side of it.

 

[dan filipi]

Sorry Brian, nothing directed toward you.
I just quoted your post because it made the most sense for what I had to say. :thanks:

 

[geno]

thanks guys for all the tips. I called a math teacher friend to do some calculus for me on this and Ive concluded I will stay with motorcyle tires. weight, cost to benefit , patch sidewall thickness. it can be very thought provoking as i am learning from others. Ive run dunlops ok metzeler 880 a little better. Haven't tried michelin commanders or avons. I love the feedback from you guys thanks alot its like having group therapy..

 

[pidjones]

Funny about some of the differing opinions on tires (oil, filters, crush washers). On one thread, I was heckled for asking the date code on a tire. Here, I seem to be seen careless for running a RUN FLAT car tire (heavy enough sidewalls to support a car, even with no air in them).

Experience - I bought an SEi once with great tread on the tires. It noticed a light rubbing sound on some turns. Turned out, the eight-year-old Dunlop had expanded over time, and was hitting the swingarm. Closer inspection after riding also showed a crack down to the cords in one spot. I watch date codes, now.

Check the rear tires at most GL1800 gatherings (darkside rallys not included), and a good 50% are running a car tire. Mostly run flats. Can your MC rear tire get you safely home if it suffers from a severe (like rebar) puncture? Dunlop and Bridgestone stopped GL1800 development in 2002, after finally getting bikes to actually test on (the original 'stones and Dunlop D250s were developed to spec without seeing the bikes). Bridgestone re-designed when they got a bike to test on, Dunlop kept the D250 as it was and released the Elite 3. Over ten years with no tire development. Metzler 880s handle great, have few issues other than wear. Avon has had many rear separation issues reported, but I hear they handle great. They all wear out the rear in 8000-13000 miles. They just struggle to handle the fat girl's weight. Shinkos on a GL1800 lasted me about 5k, when huge blisters developed in the center of the FRONT tread. They couldn't handle the weight, either.

I'd never run a CT on an older 'Wing, because there are good MC tires available that are sufficient for the lighter bikes. My GL1800, Black Pearl, weighs in at close to 1200 pounds with me and gear. Without the wife and her gear. I've ridden both, and I'll stick with protecting my and my passenger's necks with a run flat tire. (The 1000 will run MC tires - new ones!, and only be ridden one-up).

A problem with the run flats, though - I need to get a TPMS for it, because I've heard that it runs so well without air, unless you are in twisties you won't notice!

Basically, there ARE NO acceptable run flat car tires for the older 'wings - they just don't fit, aren't needed, and they are radials, anyway. But for the 1800? The only way for me. 79k miles on my 2006, the last 19k on run flat.


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[joedrum]

if I listen to all the canters ...I wouldn't know crap ...cause everything cant be done ...plain bs ....everything I do cant be done I don't even listen to the crap anymore ...the forums haveproved to me ...most just run there mouth with absolutly nothing to back it up ...but some idiots writing from people with papers who think there opinion towers over others ...nothing could be further from the truth in my opinion ...in my fields of craftsmanship ...I was top dog cause I passed everyone cause it couldn't be done ....truth was ....they wouldn't do it they weren't confident enough with themselves ....end of story ...I proved all the time it could be done

 

[joedrum]

smarty pants

 

[mcgovern61]

I have read and seen many "darkside" threads in many forums and never commented or participated in the conversation. Well that is going to change right now! :whip:



..........OK.........I'm good, that was enough discussion for me! :doh: :hihihi: :smilie_happy:

 

[mcgovern61]

pidjones » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:23 am[/url]":1xk3k6ky]
Funny about some of the differing opinions on tires (oil, filters, crush washers). On one thread, I was heckled for asking the date code on a tire. Here, I seem to be seen careless for running a RUN FLAT car tire (heavy enough sidewalls to support a car, even with no air in them).

Experience - I bought an SEi once with great tread on the tires. It noticed a light rubbing sound on some turns. Turned out, the eight-year-old Dunlop had expanded over time, and was hitting the swingarm. Closer inspection after riding also showed a crack down to the cords in one spot. I watch date codes, now.

Check the rear tires at most GL1800 gatherings (darkside rallys not included), and a good 50% are running a car tire. Mostly run flats. Can your MC rear tire get you safely home if it suffers from a severe (like rebar) puncture? Dunlop and Bridgestone stopped GL1800 development in 2002, after finally getting bikes to actually test on (the original 'stones and Dunlop D250s were developed to spec without seeing the bikes). Bridgestone re-designed when they got a bike to test on, Dunlop kept the D250 as it was and released the Elite 3. Over ten years with no tire development. Metzler 880s handle great, have few issues other than wear. Avon has had many rear separation issues reported, but I hear they handle great. They all wear out the rear in 8000-13000 miles. They just struggle to handle the fat girl's weight. Shinkos on a GL1800 lasted me about 5k, when huge blisters developed in the center of the FRONT tread. They couldn't handle the weight, either.

I'd never run a CT on an older 'Wing, because there are good MC tires available that are sufficient for the lighter bikes. My GL1800, Black Pearl, weighs in at close to 1200 pounds with me and gear. Without the wife and her gear. I've ridden both, and I'll stick with protecting my and my passenger's necks with a run flat tire. (The 1000 will run MC tires - new ones!, and only be ridden one-up).

A problem with the run flats, though - I need to get a TPMS for it, because I've heard that it runs so well without air, unless you are in twisties you won't notice!

Basically, there ARE NO acceptable run flat car tires for the older 'wings - they just don't fit, aren't needed, and they are radials, anyway. But for the 1800? The only way for me. 79k miles on my 2006, the last 19k on run flat.


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Well put!