Electric cars!....really?

[scdmarx]

So....

How do you feel about electric cars?

 

[dan filipi]

So....

How do you feel about electric cars?

I think the electric GM posted above is a joke.

I mean come on, 35 miles on a charge?
THEN it takes 12 hours to recharge unless you buy the 240 volt charger to cut that to 4.

Over the 35 miles a generator has to run then mileage drops to 35-40.

You just know those numbers are made to look good. 35 miles in L.A probably translates to 15 sitting in traffic with the A/C on.

I'll wait a few more years, hopefully they will let out better technology that I'm sure they have waiting in the wings.

Til then I'll drive my 14 city 21 highway Suburban.

 

[scdmarx]

I think the electric GM posted above is a joke.

That's an understatement if I ever saw one!

 

[slabghost]

Electric as a power source is actually a fine idea. The trouble lies in creating a small light weight device capable of providing electricity without a mechanical generator. If mechanics is used to create electricity then it's far more efficient to just use the mechanics. This is how we got to our present modes of transport.

 

[joedrum]

yeah andy it dose ...when you take a simple idea like one sould take care of ones own house ....and then feel like everybody sould take of there house like you do and take issue with it ....is exactly when that person or system quits taking care of there house...if one is realy concerned with there house the others dont matter ...if you want peace keep it simple ....

as a person directly a victom of gov stupidity of making war viruses to infect on others and living through all the denial they done on there behaft at my expense and the deaths of others was an education in thruth you cant buy anywhere its not for sale thruth is always free and simple ...why would any thing good take a horrible thing like syphilis and spend all kinds of money to make super syphilis and then use tics as distributing vehicle tranports and then turn it loose ....and then denie everything while people die and suffer ....the people there suppose to represent....the diffenition of gov is ...its better that one person dies than an entire nation that man was jesus ....im not against gov there against me .....im not against moderin religion there against me .....i dont fight for freedom i live it .....when jesus took away all sin and distoried the jewish temple in 70ad do you think it was his plan for man to bring it back along with all the laws jesus laugh at and put sin back on the table ...america has gotten away from its roots just like moderin religion has gotten away from jesus

 

[dan filipi]

You guys might think I'm crazy ( maybe not but others have already) but it is possible to pull energy out of the atmosphere around us.
As long as this planet has an atmosphere this energy is endless.
I believe our scientists have already found a way to this and are working on controlling it better.

The trouble is once this technology gets out, there is no way to make money on it so it is suppressed.

Back in the 50's they were working on prototype laser weapons.
Anyone that thinks they have not perfected this technology way beyond what they let us know is just fooling themselves.

 

[slabghost]

If they are bright enough to pull power out of thin air. They should have enough smarts to figure out how to turn a profit. Folks are making money selling bottled water.

 

[scdmarx]

I think Ben Franklin had a similar idea, but no way to charge for it.

 

[slabghost]

He could have sold kites! :smilie_happy: :smilie_happy:

 

[Andyb]

I really like the idea of the solar generated steam power. I know very little about it, but I have seen conceptual drawings that have banks of mirrors focused on a large water tower. This generates steam, which turns a turbine. The concept I saw had it based in the desert. Anybody know anymore about this?

 

[Andyb]

I was joking about the hippy thing. Sometimes I get tired of fighting and need a time out.

The Pilgrims tried that. They nearly starved. Human nature must be rewarded for work .

Good point! I totally agree.

and laziness comes far too naturally.

And the reason is because something is missing.

There are some basic needs that a man must have. He can't help it. These needs are manufactured into him.
He must have a dream. A desire. A goal. Something to work for/towards. There must be a prize waiting for him at the finishline. His trek toward that prize must fulfill his need to explore and his need for adventure, which includes the need to be challenged and to conquer, to taste victory. All the movies, stories and fairytales, they are all about good vs evil. Cops and robbers, heros vs villains, white knights vs black nights. These adventures appeal to us because they are born from our inner needs. Man has a need to share his adventure with a companion. He must conquer evil and rescue the damsel. Because he was made for companionship. Ya, a good dog is nice, but just can't fill the need to rescue his damsel and ride off into the sunset together. He has a need to feel respected by his damsel. If his damsel argues with every decision he makes, he will inturpret this as disrespect for his leadership. He needs to feel he is repected, most importantly by his companion, but also by others around him. A man also needs to feel he is responsible. As in a good provider, a good stewart, a good leader, a good follower, and the ability to present himself to a higher rank with a clear conscience. Yes, a higher rank. If it's lonely at the top, it's because something is missing at the top. I don't believe man was ever intended to be at the top. He needs to show accountability. It's just something that can't be helped. It's the way he's put together. A man also needs to feel he is adequite. Capable. Take on a challenge, conquer and build. The need to look back and see accomplishment.
I won't claim to have it all figured out, but I truely believe that if I could only stay focused on accomplishing these basic needs, and all at the same time, you couldn't hold me back and there wouldn't be a lazy bone in my body. And this time I'm not kidding.

Humor me. It's raining outside again and I'm stuck at the computer. :head bang:

More good stuff. I like your line of thinking.

Everytime I hear about umemployment, not like, I lost my job and it is going to take me a bit to get a new one type unemployment, but the long term type of unemployment we are having now, I think we should put more people to work doing the basics. Why can't they help with food production? Or road maintenance? Or shelter creation?

 

[joedrum]

thats a great ideal andy ....but our representatives have just passed s510 bill that effectivly assasinated food production from the common joe ....if people only realy knew how easy it is to raise your own food ......its like all real answers are illeagle or going to be .....a controled society like we live in is the most waistful endeaver to operate .....our country is obvious proof of this .....in a land that has all the natural resorces as we do ...we do nothing because opportunity has been backdoor strip from us...the basic things that provide satisfaction in life has been made illeagle to do.....being a slave in the south in the 1800s out in the open nature of real world is better to me than being placed in some public housing and strip of all chance in life and told that you are free .....in a 150 yrs that dont look like proggress....thats control and control is slavery and slavery is for all in america now in the name of freedom we need more control ...its just laughable to people whos thinking is of there own will and not systemic brainwashing thats leads to personal distruction of ones self :mrgreen:

 

[mcgovern61]

I really like the idea of the solar generated steam power. I know very little about it, but I have seen conceptual drawings that have banks of mirrors focused on a large water tower. This generates steam, which turns a turbine. The concept I saw had it based in the desert. Anybody know anymore about this?

Yep, these plants do exists. Their only downfall is they only produce electricity when the sun is shining and do not produce at night. They only help with daytime demand and are expensive to maintain. The mirrors have to be polished all of the time and apparently are subject to reduced efficiency pretty quick if not perfectly clear. Of course you cannot polish them in the daytime when they are focused, you might get a tan! :smilie_happy:

 

[slabghost]

Send in the roomba bots! Geothermal is another good source if you are in an area with the required heat.

 

[Andyb]

Of course you cannot polish them in the daytime when they are focused, you might get a tan! :smilie_happy:

I bet it would be more than just a tan. Where is the smiley with the guy catching on fire? :smilie_happy:

 

[scdmarx]

Of course you cannot polish them in the daytime when they are focused, you might get a tan! :smilie_happy:

I bet it would be more than just a tan. Where is the smiley with the guy catching on fire? :smilie_happy:

Looks like a good job for those unemployed folks. Ever try to get one of them sign holders in the parking lot at the mall to come pull weeds at your house? Sheeesh! I think I'd stand a better chance at getting my kid to do it! :rant: :whip: :whip: :smilie_happy:

 

[scdmarx]

I really like the idea of the solar generated steam power. I know very little about it, but I have seen conceptual drawings that have banks of mirrors focused on a large water tower. This generates steam, which turns a turbine. The concept I saw had it based in the desert. Anybody know anymore about this?

Yep, these plants do exists. Their only downfall is they only produce electricity when the sun is shining and do not produce at night. They only help with daytime demand and are expensive to maintain. The mirrors have to be polished all of the time and apparently are subject to reduced efficiency pretty quick if not perfectly clear. Of course you cannot polish them in the daytime when they are focused, you might get a tan! :smilie_happy:

I have seen what looks like some kind of mirror farm out here in the Mojave. Just down the road a piece from the windmill farm area. Is that what they're doing? Making steam? It's been there for several years. I first noticed it about 15-20 years ago.

 

[dan filipi]

Ever try to get one of them sign holders in the parking lot at the mall to come pull weeds at your house? Sheeesh! I think I'd stand a better chance at getting my kid to do it! :rant: :whip: :whip: :smilie_happy:

Once I tried to hand one of those guys a roll of paper towels and some window cleaner before running into the liquor store and told him if he cleaned my windshield I'd give him $2. He flat refused and thought I was nuts!

 

[scdmarx]

I was parked in line at the border one time and this dude came up and cleaned my winshield, then insisted I give him a dollar. I actually thought he was gonna kick my ass. Cost me a dollar to make him go away.

 

[detdrbuzzard]

electric cars, for now the manufactures can keep them. the electric grid can't handle the demand when it's hot and everyone is using their air conditioner so how are you going to recharge your car. during the winter running the heat and lights how many miles can you travel as compaired to a warm day. there was an auto jurnalist that just tested a chevy volt in cold weather a week or two ago and said that the car lost 23% of its range in the cold weather he was driving in