84 goldwing interstate 1200 start issues

[backlander]

With the spark plugs out, the pressure released on the valves and the belts off and with you being able to turn the engine over to line up the T-marks, the only thing I can think off that would prevent you from turning the pulleys would be bent valves.

 

[Macc304]

How do inrelease the pressure on the valves?

 

[backlander]

remove the deforming chamber covers and the oil distribution plate then loosen or remove the five rocker arm assembly bolts. If you remove the assembly don't let the cam fall out of the head and remove or loosen the bolts in a criss cross pattern to keep from cocking the assembly sideways. I would just loosen them first to see if it will allow you to turn the pulleys

 

[Macc304]

Ok. Got the timing done. Releasing the pressure on the valves worked. Got everything lined up. Everything turns easily now. Stays in time. Checked several times after cranking by hand. Starter clutch turns when i put the socket on it. Found out the starter was turning the wrong way. So got it turing right and the chain now spins when starter is engaged. But when it turns the chain the starter clutch does not move. Now is this because the engine is still out and not everything is hooked up or does the starter clutch need to be rebuilt with springs and rollers?

 

[slabghost]

you said chain only turned one way before. If it's going that way now it probably backwards.

 

[Macc304]

No the chain is turning the right way. It still only turns one way. The starter before was turning the wrong way and would not turn the chain. But now it is turning the right way and so is the chain.

 

[dan filipi]

With chain turning the correct direction and clutch still not engaging, I'd say the clutch rollers are probably stuck and not engaging.

 

[Macc304]

Ok thats what i was thinking. Ill take it apart and have a look. Thanks everyone for the help.

 

[slabghost]

Or voltage is low and there isn't enough kick to position the rollers.

 

[Macc304]

Ok, so i got the starter clutch off and looked at the srpings and rollers. They all seem to in good workomg oder. Soni cleaned the hell out of them and lubed everything up. The quration i have now is how do i get the damn thing back on? I seen the video of the guy using the straws to hold the rollers back. However, the staryer clutch on mine does not have three small holes to do this. Ot has three larger holes but when i move the the rollers back the rollers block the holes. So how do i hols them back in oder to re enstall the starter clutch?

 

[dan filipi]

Rotate it as you slide it on. I've done it that way many times and it goes right on. Sorry I don't remember which direction to rotate.

 

[Macc304]

Ok i will give that a try. Thank yourl for the response. Id omagine that it would be countee clockwise since that is the way it engages.

 

[Rednaxs60]

Recommend replacing the springs before install. Inexpensive and do loose some design properties over time, but crucial little items.

Just a thought.

Agree with Dan, slip clutch on gently and turn to slip all the way on. There is a You Tube video about doing just this.

Cheers

 

[Macc304]

Do you have the link?

 

[dan filipi]

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Do you have the link?

I think it was bronko37 here that posted a video. I haven't been able to find it.

 

[Macc304]

Ok so after all is said and done, once i get the starter clutch back om i should be able to hook the starter up and test it right? Or will i not know till i put it back in?

 

[dan filipi]

Yes once you have the clutch on you can put the starter in an try it wth the back cover off.
Have the spark plugs out.

 

[Macc304]

Ok did that. Now the starter and chain are still moving one direction only and the starter clutch itself is not moving.

 

[dan filipi]

Is it turning in the same direction you tried by hand earlier, when the clutch did engage and chain wouldn't turn?

 

[Macc304]

No the clutch never did turn with the chain. When i crank it by socket the chain and clutch turn. When i mive rhe chain by hand the clutch does not turn. When i hook the starter up oy chain and starter move. Not the clutch. Only time the starter clutch moves is when i turn the crank on the back of the engine at the starter clutch with a socket.