Dan's carb reconditioning done on the cheap

[Ansimp]

Dan do you plan to disassemble the carbs after the soak to gauge your success?

 

[dan filipi]

Dan do you plan to disassemble the carbs after the soak to gauge your success?

Yes but I'm opening them up only far enough to clean the jets and sliders as needed.
Cleaning the jets and slides require no seal changing.
I've already seen that the bowl gaskets are in good shape.
The one air cutoff I could get into is in good shape so I'm hopeful the others are also.

I'm going to come up with a way to remove the cutoffs without separating the carbs from the plenum.

No cleaners like carb spray will be used.
Many of them will just destroy the seals leading to trouble.

 

[roncar]

There are obviously extreme cases where, like that one in roncar's pictures and others I've seen, there may not be any choice but to completely disassemble them to get them clean but I believe in most cases a set of carbs doesn't need new seals if handled properly.

I'm sure there are plenty would disagree with me.

The things that concerns me....

1. If the ATF does it's job and gets in everywhere, I don't see how you will get it all out of the carbs passages, without fully disassembling as much as possible.

2. At the prices you stated, a near $40 bath is a lot more than distilled water (I actually used tap :blush: ) Everything was frozen tight and the water dissolved the residue, and everything moved/came apart easily.

3. I have several HF oring kits. None of the included orings, at least on 1000 carbs, are a perfect match. Have to go with close enough, and hope it works.

4. I have and will continue to reuse seals, gaskets, and orings when I can. (I was recently informed that if you Google 'cheep', you will see a picture of roncar. :doh: )

I will be following your results and am interested in what the outcome will be. My only 'real' concern right now is the cost of the bath. That's money that would go a long way towards just replacing the orings. https://www.partsnmore.com/parts/honda/gl1100/?filters[category]=carb&filters[fitting]=custom&filters[year]=1983

The one air cutoff I could get into is in good shape so I'm hopeful the others are also

That will determine how much of a 'budget' rebuild this will be. :beg:

 

[ekvh]

" I was recently informed that if you Google 'cheep', you will see a picture of roncar. "

I thought you were kidding Ron, but, hey nice picture anyways. Now maybe you can splain why your picture is under Google for cheep. Cheap?

Now back to our regularly scheduled program. I am curious how this works out too. Any concern of the diesel fuel eating the rubber?

 

[90Blazer]

I'm curious too about how the atf and diesel fuel work on removing the old varnish in the carbs. Last year when I cleaned and rebuilt my carbs (on my 1200), I just bought the minimum Honda seal kit for each carb at about $10 per carb because mine seals were all dry rotted. I soaked all the parts in a $16 dollar can of carb cleaner. As far as the diesel fuel eating the rubber, I think it will be alot easyier on the rubber then the gasoline that they normally see. just my .02

 

[joedrum]

if diesel fuel was bad for rubber injector pumps would never last long ...the diesel is more a thinning agent than a cure of rubber the atf is that and more

 

[ekvh]

So no corn in diesel fuel?? I have never had a diesel of any kind.

 

[dan filipi]

I'm going to give this atf mix a week then have a look at the float bowls.
If it doesn't seem to be dissolving the varnish then I might pour in a gallon of gasoline to the mix.
I think that will spice up the cutting action.

 

[ekvh]

How's the marinating going?

 

[joedrum]

:fishin: patience all :Awe: :smilie_happy: :mrgreen:

 

[dan filipi]

:fishin: patience all :Awe: :smilie_happy: :mrgreen:

Yes!!

One slider comes out now and the gunk in bottom of the bowls is loosening up!

 

[dan filipi]

I went ahead and poured a gallon of old gas into the mix.
Should be interesting opcorn:
I'm sure if I could get this mix to move, the carbs would be clean in little time.

 

[slabghost]

mount an orbital sander to the table to vibrate it? Well you could have before the gasoline but now I think it'd be a fire hazard with gas in the mix.

 

[Ansimp]

Maybe an air orbital sander?

 

[dan filipi]

I'm thinking about using an air stone.
The fish store has them pretty cheap but I'm going to give the soaking a few more days, trying to spend as little money as I can.

 

[slabghost]

Maybe just mount the fish tank air pump to the tub. They vibrate pretty good.

 

[dan filipi]

My cocktail mix is definitely doing what I want it to do even sitting still.....video to follow.

 

[Ansimp]

Great to hear :good:

 

[dan filipi]

Everything is starting to let loose.
I'm very pleased so far:

Removing the float, float needle, and float seat:


Removing the idle mixture screws:


Removing the idle and primary jets:


A look at the vacuum slides and cap sealing ring:

 

[Steve83]

So it's 1 part ATF, 1 part diesel fuel, and 1 part really old gas... Seems to work good! Cool! Do you think used ATF would work as well?