My C5 ignition has arrived!

[joedrum]

its been made clear to me to spend some money on a relay ... as the cheap ones can faulter and cause problems somewhere theres a pic of a good to use one ...in the short term I remounted my cheap relay upside down to have gravity going for me that the relay wont falter on me till I get one that is up to the task of protecting the c5 the best ...skirri

 

[skiri251]

Thanks Paul and Joe.

I will use the Kill Switch wire to switch the relay.
Now I need to look for a good quality relay...

 

[skiri251]

Is this the thread I should follow?

https://www.classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=4226&hilit=ignition+relay

Bosch style relay
12 gauge with a 10 amp fuse.

I guess it's high quality if it's made by Bosch...
Let's see what my local auto stores got.

 

[Ansimp]

skiri251 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:52 am[/url]":nx5g3ush]
Is this the thread I should follow?

https://www.classicgoldwings.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=4226&hilit=ignition+relay

Bosch style relay
12 gauge with a 10 amp fuse.

I guess it's high quality if it's made by Bosch...
Let's see what my local auto stores got.

That is definitely the right way to wire up the relay ( electric switch) which now only draws 200ma through the stock ignition and kill switches while providing solid power from the battery :good:

 

[wilcoy02]

not trying to hijack your thread.

So when I install mine on Sunday-I need some type of relay?? What else do I need to complete this install. I want to ride it on Sunday after putting this on.

 

[dan filipi]

wilcoy02 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:08 pm[/url]":2pg8sjfv]
not trying to hijack your thread.

So when I install mine on Sunday-I need some type of relay?? What else do I need to complete this install. I want to ride it on Sunday after putting this on.

Wes, get it all installed THEN look at the relay mod.

 

[wilcoy02]

So I can install and ride on Sunday with what I have?

 

[dan filipi]

Yes.
Just as your ignition is now getting +12 volts to power your ignition, that same black wire supplying this +12 volts to your coil resistor will power the C5.

Later if you want, you can add the relay but right now it's not required.

 

[Ansimp]

It's not required but it sure gives 30 year old switch gear a break and maximum power to the coils, pickup.

 

[C5Performance]

wilcoy02 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:08 pm[/url]":1534bzwr]
not trying to hijack your thread.

So when I install mine on Sunday-I need some type of relay?? What else do I need to complete this install. I want to ride it on Sunday after putting this on.

I'd suggest you review one of the many threads that already exist regarding relays.

I'll give a super short overview of why this comes into discussion...

Your battery power must flow from the positive terminal to the fuse block (usually), up the frame to the ignition switch, cross the old crusty contact points, then head to the kill switch, where it must once again cross the contact points there, and finally reach your coil. That power then feeds both your coil and the C5 ignition module, correct??

Any spot the power has to run through a 30 year old set of contact points is a spot that could potentially cause brief moments of "low or zero" power, which for electronics, is a very bad thing!

If you install a relay, your battery power now goes directly through the relay, and straight to the coil and ignition module. Your stock wiring just turns the relay ON, it no longer has to provide the long path for a larger load.

So what the guys are saying, is get the thing running. Don't lose sleep over relays and other things. Just get it running. Worry about adding a relay (electronic locking relay would be the preferred type anyway) later once you have your ignition in place.

If you have questions about the install....my phone is always on so please call.

 

[skiri251]

Put the engine back on. That was relatively easy.
Then started wiring. Now this is time consuming as usual.
Worked until now (10PM) it is almost done but I am tired so the rest is tomorrow.

 

[joedrum]

great job skirri.......it cant be to fast ...and working past a certain level can lead to mistakes

 

[skiri251]

Okay, wiring is done.

The relay (made in Taiwan.. better than China?)

Pulled B/W wire from coil connector and connected it to the relay.

Next up, hook up the radiator and oil filter, fill the fluids, and start the engine! (hopefully today..)

 

[joedrum]

opcorn:

 

[skiri251]

She is alive! :yahoo:

Idle RPM became higher than before as in Dan's video.

Off idle hesitation came back... maybe carb related?
(When I bought her 3~4 years ago, she got that hesitation which went away with Seafoam and ATF treatment.)
Maybe the engine wasn't fully warmed up...

Needless to say, the voltage at the battery was 14.3V so the alternator is alive too.

Next up, put the fairing on and ride.

 

[backlander]

:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: Way to go skiri. :good:

 

[joedrum]

wow man great job ... im glad it all work out .. with the froum involved mostly as paul helping it seems to have gone good :yahoo: :yahoo: :mrgreen:

now lets hope wilcoy is having good success on his iknow hes working on his also opcorn:

 

[dan filipi]

Way to go skiri!

Weird how the idle speed increases hah?
Just goes to show ya there's better burn.

 

[wilcoy02]

congrats skiri

Starting mine in the morning. Hope it goes as easy as yours.

 

[Ansimp]

Excellent read and I am glad you did the relay mod while you were working on the new ignition. If you are anything like me and the bike was running without the relay it would be on the gunna list until it was broken. :good: