splitting open my 82' 1100

[zman]

slabghost » Wed Apr 15, 2015 4:37 pm[/url]":1m6184od]
Once a project starts. The scariest words to hear are "while we're at it".

:smilie_happy: Thats for sure but regret is worse.

 

[mcgovern61]

Both of the cranks I gave you need to be checked for tolerance before using. The '82 crank (rustier one) had a spun bearing on it (I think) and the '81 engine had seriously worn bearings (remember that wonderful copper color I showed you on those bearings?)

If you are going to continue, I would pull the '82 crank out of the block and get that broken piston off. The crank may be OK otherwise and might be a closer tolerance for your current '82 bearings.

The '81 crank is already clean, but you need to check it first! I would hate to see you re-assemble and find out the crank is still an issue.

Did you see any other engines over in Glassboro?

 

[jerseydogg]

mcgovern61 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:03 pm[/url]":3la6vdxe]
Both of the cranks I gave you need to be checked for tolerance before using. The '82 crank (rustier one) had a spun bearing on it (I think) and the '81 engine had seriously worn bearings (remember that wonderful copper color I showed you on those bearings?)

If you are going to continue, I would pull the '82 crank out of the block and get that broken piston off. The crank may be OK otherwise and might be a closer tolerance for your current '82 bearings.

The '81 crank is already clean, but you need to check it first! I would hate to see you re-assemble and find out the crank is still an issue.

Did you see any other engines over in Glassboro?

Ok, I'll pull the 82 apart and have them both checked. In the mean time, I'll be looking for another engine that I can just throw in there. The rest of the engine just seems to be so perfect I don't want to ruin anything by rushing just so I can ride.

The guy in Glassboro never came to the door, so I didn't get to see what he had. The guy who took me over there said that he will keep trying to get in touch with him and when he does he will give me a call.

I guess I'm back to hunting for an engine.

 

[Steve83]

Check the number/letter codes scribed on the crank throws, the three main bearing codes stamped on the front of the right case, and the number/letter codes scribed on the connecting rods. There is a chart in the manual that gives the color code for the main and rod bearings using these symbols. You might get lucky and the replacement crank uses the same bearings...they are hard to find!

Rod bearing selection chart:

Rod Bearing Selection Chart

• Steve83
• Mar 18, 2013

Main bearing selection chart:

Main Bearing Selection Chart

• Steve83
• Mar 18, 2013

GL1100 80-83 Service Manual Page 8-16

• WindNWing
• Oct 16, 2012

 

[jerseydogg]

Steve83 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:34 pm[/url]":1t22ni1w]
Check the number/letter codes scribed on the crank throws, the three main bearing codes stamped on the front of the right case, and the number/letter codes scribed on the connecting rods. There is a chart in the manual that gives the color code for the main and rod bearings using these symbols. You might get lucky and the replacement crank uses the same bearings...they are hard to find!

Rod bearing selection chart:

Rod Bearing Selection Chart

• Steve83
• Mar 18, 2013

Main bearing selection chart:

Main Bearing Selection Chart

• Steve83
• Mar 18, 2013

GL1100 80-83 Service Manual Page 8-16

• WindNWing
• Oct 16, 2012

Thanks, I'll be digging into this tomorrow

 

[zman]

I would guess if you had the block and crank from an extra engine you could switch the crank and all the bearing provided they are all good, all I seen was a crank on the floor, did it come with a block and bearings too.

 

[jerseydogg]

zman » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:58 pm[/url]":3u0ci6d5]
I would guess if you had the block and crank from an extra engine you could switch the crank and all the bearing provided they are all good, all I seen was a crank on the floor, did it come with a block and bearings too.

Yes, I have a crank with no bearing (that needs to be checked) because the bearing that were on it were toasted. That's the one you seen on the floor. I have another crank that may or may not have bearing issues. I won't know until tomorrow.

 

[slabghost]

jerseydogg » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:32 pm[/url]":1fu2djz3]

mcgovern61 » Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:03 pm[/url]":1fu2djz3]
Both of the cranks I gave you need to be checked for tolerance before using. The '82 crank (rustier one) had a spun bearing on it (I think) and the '81 engine had seriously worn bearings (remember that wonderful copper color I showed you on those bearings?)

If you are going to continue, I would pull the '82 crank out of the block and get that broken piston off. The crank may be OK otherwise and might be a closer tolerance for your current '82 bearings.

The '81 crank is already clean, but you need to check it first! I would hate to see you re-assemble and find out the crank is still an issue.

Did you see any other engines over in Glassboro?

Ok, I'll pull the 82 apart and have them both checked. In the mean time, I'll be looking for another engine that I can just throw in there. The rest of the engine just seems to be so perfect I don't want to ruin anything by rushing just so I can ride.

The guy in Glassboro never came to the door, so I didn't get to see what he had. The guy who took me over there said that he will keep trying to get in touch with him and when he does he will give me a call.

I guess I'm back to hunting for an engine.

Here's a 1000 engine at a good price and shipping isn't too bad. Might be good enough to drop your carbs on and ride while you fix the 1100.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1978-Honda-GL10 ... 88?vxp=mtr

 

[zman]

Jeez, cant believe how rare old wings seem to be in your neck of the woods, CL has not much except this parts bike in New Orleans..Wants a premium and no mention of the block.
https://neworleans.craigslist.org/mpo/4930243190.html

 

[jerseydogg]

zman » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:49 am[/url]":3d6yhssh]
Jeez, cant believe how rare old wings seem to be in your neck of the woods, CL has not much except this parts bike in New Orleans..Wants a premium and no mention of the block.
https://neworleans.craigslist.org/mpo/4930243190.html

I'm actually not in pelican state. I'm in the garden state (with the bike). I know where there are 4-5 old wings in my area just sitting there. I think when I get back, I'm going to attempt to just buy them up.

 

[jerseydogg]

jerseydogg » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:55 am[/url]":2irv9jmc]

zman » Thu Apr 16, 2015 9:49 am[/url]":2irv9jmc]
Jeez, cant believe how rare old wings seem to be in your neck of the woods, CL has not much except this parts bike in New Orleans..Wants a premium and no mention of the block.
https://neworleans.craigslist.org/mpo/4930243190.html

I'm actually not in pelican state, right now. I'm in the garden state (with the bike). I know where there are 4-5 old wings in my area just sitting there. I think when I get back, I'm going to attempt to just buy them up.

 

[jerseydogg]

https://youtu.be/r3w-Oj0DGDc

how does this look?

I believe someone has been in this engine since 1982, what do you think?

[video]https://youtu.be/r3w-Oj0DGDc[/video]

 

[dan filipi]

If all the bearings look like that I think you're golden and this engine is worth saving since it was well taken care of.

 

[jerseydogg]

https://youtu.be/Hue8oWYmL0E
This is the other side of gl1100

[video]https://youtu.be/Hue8oWYmL0E[/video]

 

[jerseydogg]

https://youtu.be/PtILFrBz_fI

crank bearings

[video]https://youtu.be/PtILFrBz_fI[/video]

 

[zman]

They look real nice, Little copper showing or is that oil? Still not too bad.

 

[jerseydogg]

https://youtu.be/sQ4dF5tuXwY

Is there suppose to be dowels in the center cap? If so, they are missing.

[video]https://youtu.be/sQ4dF5tuXwY[/video]

 

[jerseydogg]

https://youtu.be/Rq_F3nPZqSU

Here's the donors that I have to work with for now.

[video]https://youtu.be/Rq_F3nPZqSU[/video]

 

[jerseydogg]

zman » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:40 pm[/url]":2uvd6oco]
They look real nice, Little copper showing or is that oil? Still not too bad.

Any golden looking color that you see is oil. NO copper

 

[dan filipi]

I duplicated the video url's and added the video code so your video's play in the post.