The plan is to turn 140,000 into 50,000

[GTC@MSAC]

Now I'm wondering, "should I really do that just to have the kicker"? I suspect I probably will, but only if the need arises to remove the motor for some other purpose, and yet, it would be nice to have a convenient way to hand-turn the crank when I want to....lol!

 

[chilidawg]

So what exactly would the kick starter connect to, internally?

I'm guessing, the back of the small starter motor sprocket?

The only thing I know about 1000's is that the 76 I rode was faster than this bike has ever been.

 

[GTC@MSAC]

chilidawg » 31 Jul 2019, 20:34[/url]":37g9kjt3]
So what exactly would the kick starter connect to, internally?

I'm guessing, the back of the small starter motor sprocket?

The only thing I know about 1000's is that the 76 I rode was faster than this bike has ever been.

The GL1000 has an extra kick-shaft protruding from the casing, in that general vicinity, and a detachable kick lever that stores in one side of the fold-open false-tank up top.
In my experience, my 75 GL1000 was noticeably faster than later years, even. Stock bikes were progressively detuned and jetted for ever-stricter emissions regs. after '75. Those carbs are commonly sought after for their better stock performance, and less expensive overhaul costs, likewise.

 

[pidjones]

I have had two GL1000s with kick start - a '77 and my '78 with '75 engine. I have yet to kick start one. It is just as easy to remove the plug from the back of the stator housing and rotate the rotor bolt with an offset 12mm or a 12mm socket and ratchet (always clockwise). A lot easier to stop on the mark, too. I've barred it over with the kicker, but it is much harder to stop on the mark that way. Also, with a '78 or '79 shelter, you have no place to store the kicker bar (not provisioned in the shelters). I store mine on the shelf. There is a ratchet mechanism and the kick start quadrant inside the case, so it is a bit more than just swapping the back cover.

Oh, and the crank case vent reservoir on the '78 & '79 is in the way. You have to disconnect it to use the kick bar. I use the '78 vent system with mu '78 with '75 engine since it is a bit better, but it is in the way if I want to bar it over with the kick bar.

 

[GTC@MSAC]

Yeah, I suspect there will be a bit more involved than just a cover swap. I already know the starter is longer in the 1000, and would not fit in my 1100, when ""I needed a starter 3 years back. Still, I am hoping the 1100 motor casting will be similar enough to the 1000 to add what is needed from one of my existing 75s. This isn't something I plan to pull the motor for, exclusively, mind you. But when, or if I have to pull my 1100 motor, I am more than curious enough to see just what I can do with it, all the same, lol! -Graves-

 

[chilidawg]

Well, the motor is finished! :Egyptian:

Next on the list I suppose is that big old pile of spaghetti that I've been trying to ignore.

 

[saganaga]

I really like the paint on that motor.

 

[D-50Dave]

saganaga » Yesterday, 10:32 pm[/url]":1yhlph4m]
I really like the paint on that motor.

I really like the motor under that paint. :smilie_happy:

 

[kerryb]

Motor looks great! You've set the bar pretty high, now you have to keep up the same level of finish on the other pieces.
I missed what model (a,I, or s) this bike started as.
Keep it up, it sounds as though you are enjoying the journey. I too have wanted a kick start option ever since I had to push-start mine alone on an empty flat road!

 

[chilidawg]

kerryb » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:11 pm[/url]":39tmo4fu]
Motor looks great! You've set the bar pretty high, now you have to keep up the same level of finish on the other pieces. I missed what model (a,I, or s) this bike started as.

You are absolutely right about that, I now have serious concerns about wheels and brake calipers letting the whole side down.

I was thinking about stripping them and getting them stove enameled, but I'm not sure which front calipers I have and I'd have to get a rebuild kit to do that. (Both the original bike and the Donor started life as 82 Interstates,) and I'm told it's impossible for the Interstate calipers to handle the Aspencade vented rotors I've used for the last 5 years or so.

It's hard to keep up when you you've spent about 18 years building a bike out of about 100 others.

 

[Two85s]

As to the kick start swap, I'm parting a 82 1100 and a 77 1000. Looks to me like the kicker on the 77 is where the pickup coils are on the 82.

 

[chilidawg]

Sorry Two85s, but :0fftopic: Though interesting. I'm not the kick starter dude.

That would be GTC@MSAC

He managed to hi-jack joedrum's breakdown thread about that too! :roll:

 

[kerryb]

chilidawg » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:54 pm[/url]":1ut6b9vz]

kerryb » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:11 pm[/url]":1ut6b9vz]
Motor looks great! You've set the bar pretty high, now you have to keep up the same level of finish on the other pieces. I missed what model (a,I, or s) this bike started as.

You are absolutely right about that, I now have serious concerns about wheels and brake calipers letting the whole side down.

I was thinking about stripping them and getting them stove enameled, but I'm not sure which front calipers I have and I'd have to get a rebuild kit to do that. (Both the original bike and the Donor started life as 82 Interstates,) and I'm told it's impossible for the Interstate calipers to handle the Aspencade vented rotors I've used for the last 5 years or so.

It's hard to keep up when you you've spent about 18 years building a bike out of about 100 others.

If you've been running vented rotors, I would stick with them just because you know how well they work and technically they should be higher performance. Same color as the motor would be neat in my book.

 

[chilidawg]

The wiring loom doesn't look anywhere near as intimidating now that it's stretched out on the bench.

Now if I remember correctly, when I installed the C5 I completely bypassed these suckers, question is, can I remove them?

 

[joedrum]

Yep don’t need those anymore ...c5 replaces and is totally independent system

 

[chilidawg]

The next step is a Marriage! An engineering term that describes the permanent installation of an engine into its frame.

Let's hope so at least, because I am so ready for "build mode" and I have everything ready for it too. I think!?

The engine does not go into the frame, the frame goes over the engine.

 

[D-50Dave]

opcorn:

 

[joedrum]

Good deal ...nice redo project

 

[julimike54]

Looks like assembly time.....almost

 

[mcgovern61]

opcorn: